The failure I was told of happened in Florida.  I've been googling but haven't 
found anything to support my story.  It looks like Iceberg was around in the 
early to mid 90's.  Also, saw where Uncle Sam tried to sue IBM and STK after 
they signed the RVA marketing deal.

I know, I know way off topic!!!

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/20/2006 4:02 PM >>>
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:34 -0400, Richard Pinion wrote:
> I heard, could have been an urban myth, the reason IBM came into the
> picture was to fix the microcode problems that was causing the lost
> data.  I'm talking pre-1998.

Iceberg took a lot of heat early on for excessive downtime.  Much of
this was due to microcode changes coming out on a regular basis you see.
Applying the changes was "disruptive", and it counted against the
machine's uptime.

I've never heard of an RVA failure that lost data (not to say that it
hasn't happened -- just that I never heard of one).  But I do plainly
remember an MVS Free-For-All at SHARE 90 (Winter 1996, Orlando) where a
user talked about his IBM RAMAC having lost data.  Here are my notes
from that session:

        "One user related multiple incidents of actual data loss
        on his newly installed RAMAC.  In one instance, one of
        the RAID drawers "spared out" a failing device.  Upon
        sparing back, the array detected a bad track, but it
        forged on ahead anyway, ruining the data on that track.
        When IBM was contacted about this, they admitted that
        this was a known problem, but that they 'didn't think
        the problem was severe enough to notify the field.'

        "(Do you believe in coincidence?  Just a couple of days
        after the announcement -- in a packed room -- that
        RAMAC lost data, IBM suddenly announced a temporary
        withdrawal of RAMAC from the marketplace.  Deliveries
        are scheduled to begin again late in October after data
        integrity issues are addressed.)"

-- 

David Andrews
A. Duda and Sons, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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