On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:15:41 -0400, David Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Thanks for your comments, Mark. You raise some good points, requiring
>me to review choices originally made 15+ years ago.
>

You're welcome. 

>Almost all my maintenance is in the form of ++ZAPs. 
<snip>

>So for each load module, I have to gather my zaps together into a
>single ++APAR.
>
<snip>

Now I see your problem. I didn't remember that.  I've run into this 
with other vendors and have to end up doing multiply apply runs.
(IIRC, apply check doesn't complain about this either!)

>My customers are happy with it.

I've installed / maintained your product at several past clients.
I didn't have any issues with your method. I can read and 
follow instructions.  :-)

>
>So exactly, what is it I'm supposed to be caring about here?

Perhaps only that you really aren't taking advantage of everything
SMP/E can do for you (and you customers). I'm still not clear on the
advatage SMP/E gives to you or your customers over a full IEBCOPY 
type replacement at each cumlative maintenance level. The only
thing I can see for sure is that it would make auditors happy and
shops that require SMP/E installed products.

>>I guess for a small product your method works, but I don't see where
>>it is any easier.  I would hate to do all that extra restore /
>>reject work for nothing.
>
>It's not really "all that" much work, Mark. The canned JCL automates
>it and is very reliable.
>

I wasn't referring to human work, I was referring to computer work
that SMP/E has to do.  For your very small product it may be fine,
but imagine trying to use your method for a large or very large
product. SMP/E tends to be a bit of a CPU hog (although much improved
in recent years).

Cheers,

Mark
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Mark Zelden
Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group
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