I'm not saying to back to the phone. Heaven forbid! My issue is that we
will be forced back to the phone when we cannot get to the web when we
have a critical problem on our systems. We have a well designed process
for change control, but even that cannot prevent all of our problems. No
matter how good change control is there WILL be problems. When that
happens we need immediate access to all resources for problem
resolution, IBM and OEM.
My issue is that IBM has a fast and reliable platform for IMBLINK that
has worked for many years. It should remain available and yes the web
interface has many good points so they should maintain BOTH platforms.
That would give the greatest amount of reliability. Chances of both
being down at the same time are very remote. 


Jon L. Veilleux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(860) 636-2683 


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jousma, David
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 7:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

Jon,

While what you say here sounds good.  I beg to differ.  IBM-LINK is
important, we cannot be productive in our jobs for long if it is not
available.  However, let's not forget the "old days" where we use the
good 'ole telephone.  Heck, I'm only in my low forties, and have not
forgotten.  That combined with downloading and receiving all available
maintenance on a monthly basis so that mid-nite ptf you might need is
already there is a big help.  

Bottom line is that they are YOUR systems to manage, not IBM's.  Good
change control, and release management goes a long ways to avoiding
problems.  I just reported a problem with ISPF - and posted it here.  I
found the problem before IBM did because I back tracked what I had
applied, and started backing PTF's off, because I found that the problem
did no exist on a lower ptf level.

I'm not defending IBM here either.  Pick your favorite ISV, are their
web support structures anywhere near the depth of IBM's?  Yet you put up
with that?  A crash in CA-1 or Top Secret, or any other critical piece
of software is going to cause you problems.  We just have to adapt.

Dave


________________________________________________________
Dave Jousma
Principal Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
616.653.8429


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 7:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?

What ever the reason, the dependence on the web for mission critical
applications like IBMLINK is insane. Any 12 year old with a little bit
of knowledge can cause a crash. What will you tell your management when
your system is down and you can't get on IBMLINK to research the
problem?
We need to put A LOT more pressure on IBM. Maybe everyone who cannot get
to IBMLINK should call in and open a SEV 1 issue. That might get their
attention. 


Jon L. Veilleux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(860) 636-2683 


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