Chris Mason said

> I would regard SUB=MSTR to be anything but bizarre and
> rather more the normal way of things than having to bother with a
> complicated "subsystem" environment. It's only when your program does
> exceptional things such as needing, say, a SYSIN file that a spooling
> subsystem becomes useful.
> 
> Probably I got this attitude by having to wrestle with system startup
> automation where, for example, the NetView SSI task and an
"automation"
> NetView task needed to be started at an early stage with SUB=MSTR so
that
> they could manage the starting of address spaces such as, well, JES2.

Yeah I agree. I'm an infrastructure guy. Most of my own code has always
run SUB=MSTR to support automation so that the automation product can
start right after master scheduler and then drive the rest of the
start-up sequence. And of course, it has to be able to hang around after
JES goes during shutdown for much the same reason. 

However SUB=JES is the default and most of the code you would typically
run on a z/OS image runs under the JES subsystem whether it needs to or
not. From an ISV point of view it is quite common to get customer
push-back when you run things under MSTR because they either don't
understand what that really means, or they assume you're up to no good.
"Oh well".

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