On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:39:39 -0800 Ray Mullins said: >Frankly, I'd like to see IBM do this type of donation/assistance program at >the 2-year community college level. Not to knock 4-year schools, but the >type of student in a 2-year school is interested in getting a skill quickly, >and employers like hiring entry-level folks that have had some experience. > >Bias note - I got my training at Los Angeles Valley College, one of the L.A. >Community College District campu...er, some proper Latin declined plural >goes here. And, frankly, I'd love to get our local CC (Sierra) interested >in the IBM world.
If the CC joins the Scholastic Alliance, they can request access to a z/OS system for coursework. You won't get a z9, but you also won't get the maintenance and other support costs. /ahw > >Later, >Ray > >-- >M. Ray Mullins >Roseville, CA, USA >http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ >http://www.mrmullins.big-bear-city.ca.us/ >http://www.the-bus-stops-here.org/ > >German is essentially a form of assembly language consisting entirely of far >calls heavily accented with throaty guttural sounds. ---ilvi >French is essentially German with messed-up pronunciation and spelling. >--Robert B Wilson >English is essentially French converted to 7-bit ASCII. ---Christophe >Pierret [for Alain LaBontÊ] > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Mark Post >> Sent: Friday, 16 November, 2007 08:26 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ. >> >> >>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 9:42 PM, in message >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Comstock >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -snip- >> > * "With the addition, ISU becomes the only public university in >> > the state to offer its technology students both an undergraduate >> > program in enterprise computing and hands-on access to such an >> > IBM mainframe." >> > >> > Really? Has IBM abandonded NIU? >> >> Based on Michael Stack's note, that happened quite a while back. But, >> even if it hadn't, does IBM have to give NIU the same thing it gives >> anyone else? I would rather see them donate hardware and software to >> as many different places as possible. UMR would be one such place, >> since that's where I got my CSc degree. I'm positive there would be >> many other good choices. >> >> > I didn't see it in this article, but someone already posted that >> > it seems the software is Linux (probably with z/VM), not z/OS; >> > is z/OS still IBM's "flagship operating system"? >> >> Oh, to be sure. Just the fact that 99% of the world (that knows about >> such things) thinks "mainframe" == "z/OS" indicates that. I've worked >> with z/OS, z/VM, and Linux concurrently. As such, I get to hear all >> the complaining about that fact. So, to me, hearing people complaining >> about "what, not z/OS?" is like complaining about ISU verus NIU. IBM >> can't throw a bone (and a relatively small one at that: z890?) to its >> poor neglected other children without being called stupid, or >> dishonest? > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
