> The problem I can fore see is that management will think that the JAVA "programming Language" (bad term I know) is interchangeable with the PC world >
I thought I had finished - Ed, have you ever worked with Java? Just to bring you up-to-date, IBM Java ships in 3 releases 1.4.2, 5 and the just-announced 6. Release 1.3.1 is still in use and will be serviced (if customers ask for it) for about another 10 years. This is just like other software products. BTW Java is actually a free product, yet has full IBM support. JAVA IS PORTABLE! That is why I said earlier "write-once-run-anywhere". It can run on mainframes, PCs, Unix , Linux etc. etc. You copy the compiled class/Jar files and off you go. Try that with any other language. The biggest problem from the mainframer's point of view is that you now have applications that are no longer dependant on the mainframe. The one grey area is likely to be the presentation layer of the code. The compiled code is bytecodes (for that read platform-neutral machine instructions), which MUST conform to the Java standard. These are interpreted by the JVM, the JVM being written to work with each specific platform (I have lost count of how many platforms IBM Java can support), although again it must conform to a minimum standard. We have home-grown Java diagnostic tools for z/OS Java that are written in Java (also available to customers e.g. svcdump.jar) that can be run on USS, Unix, Linux, Solaris, PCs and probably others that I can't think of. All we do is download a Jar file or two and off we go - QED. Java IS a programming language, try this URL for size: http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci212415,00.html It is also a "new" language relative to many others, hence is evolving. As for the disclaimer, I do hope you are not trying to run the manual on your system. I am not sure what EXEC PGM=pdf would result in, no wonder IBM does not guarantee the results! INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES CORPORATION PROVIDES THIS PUBLICATION ?AS IS? WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF NON-INFRINGEMENT, MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Poil Java z/OS Level 3 Service IBM United Kingdom Limited, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN Internal: 246824 External: +44 (0)1962 816824 Java debugging: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
