> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers > > Mark Zelden wrote: > > So it probably isn't intentional hiding, but if the > programmers don't see IPCS > > on the menu, it doesn't exist for them and even if they > have seen it at another > > shop may assume they can't use it where they are at. >
Being an "applications" type guy for the past 25 years rather than a "systems" type, I've been following this thread with a great deal of interest. There has been a lot of sentiment that applications programmers are either reluctant to use IPCS because they are too lazy to learn something new or too stupid to believe another tool could prove useful. In my case I have to plead total ignorance. I had never heard of IPCS prior to reading this thread. How am I supposed to RTFM when I don't even know the product exists? As pointed out, it is not on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] menu, which as an application developer is the only menu I have ever seen on entry to ISPF. > > > OK. Let's give it a try: > > |ipcs > | BLS21001I IPCS for z/OS 01.09.00 > | IKJ56584I BLSCDDIR NOT FOUND. REQUIRED DDNAME SYSUPROC IS > NOT ALLOCATED. > | BLS21020I FILE(IPCSDDIR) not allocated > | READY > > Right out of the gate, something is wrong. At this point, I would be Yep, seeing all this talk about IPCS I had to go try it out for myself and ran into this yesterday. > stuck without the manual. In the old days, that would be > that. But, this > is 2008! I navigate my browser to the "IPCS User's Guide" and > search for > BLSCDDIR, I find this: > > http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea > 2c640/4.3.1.1 > > It tells me exactly where to find the BLSCDDIR CLIST and what > it's used > for. Let's try it: > > |ex 'sys1.sblscli0(blscddir)' > | READY Ok, Thanks! I'll try this too. Yep, that worked. And I allocated the appropriate libs to SYSPROC, ISPSLIB, ISPMLIB, etc... > > Whoa! OK. Let me try that IPCS command again: > > |ipcs > | BLS21001I IPCS for z/OS 01.09.00 > | IPCS > > I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Now I should be all set too since us "applications" type guys aren't being blocked from using IPCS. Here I go ... READY ipcs IPCS for z/OS 01.08.00 ICH408I USER(JOEUSER ) GROUP($JOESGRP) NAME(PGMR,JOE ) SYS1.PARMLIB.B CL(DATASET ) VOL(SYSBR2) INSUFFICIENT ACCESS AUTHORITY FROM SYS1.PARMLIB.* (G) ACCESS INTENT(READ ) ACCESS ALLOWED(NONE ) IEC150I 913-38,IFG0194E,JOEUSER,@ENDPROD,SYS00991,D1FB,SYSBR2,SYS1.PARMLIB.B System ABEND 913, reason code 0038 PSW 075C1000 80EAAD8E, module IGC0001I, CSECT*UNKNOWN, offset 013D8E Instruction area 41003B7A 0A0D41F0 38BE56F0 GPR 0R 00EAB054 1R A4913000 2R 0095619C 3R 00EAA4DA GPR 4R 009B5410 5R 009B57A4 6R 009B574C 7R 009B57A4 GPR 8R 009B576C 9R 009A1CA8 10R 00FA9068 11R 00EADB04 GPR 12R 80EADBE4 13R 009B56D0 14R 80EAA612 15R 00000038 *UNKNOWN ENDED DUE TO ERROR, SYSTEM ABEND CODE 913 READY Not quite the result I was hoping for ... If I am reading this correct, I am being stopped because I don't have read access to SYS1.PARMLIB.B Now I don't know about your shop, but if I go asking for access to a SYS1 dataset that I currently do not have access to, I had better be armed to the teeth with justifications for that request because it will raise all kinds of serious red flags and I will attract lots of attention from security folks. "I wanted to play around with IPCS" would not be considered a valid business justification and at best I will be on someone's short list after that. So unless someone knows some other magic or can tell me how to make IPCS stop trying to read SYS1.PARMLIB.B, this looks like a dead end for me. Bill Bass United Health Care Senior Applications Developer NDB Provider Systems Greenville, SC This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
