Sam, I strongly concur with everything you said below about ICFRU, IDCAMS (and not just EXPORT commands) and DFSMShsm. As a former CR+ user at my last job, it, like T-REX, runs rings around IDCAMS, etc. to the tune of being *** TEN TIMES *** faster at a lot of things.
And while I like DFSMShsm, "leery" doesn't even begin to describe my feelings about using it as the primary backup and recovery tool. :-) Bob --------------------------------------------------------- Robert B. Richards (Bob) US Office of Personnel Management 1900 E Street NW Room: BH04L Washington, D.C. 20415 Phone: (202) 606-1195 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ICF Catalogs on SMS managed volumes Bob you are right. CATALOG backup and recovery gets special attention here as well with backups during our normal nightly point in time copy window as well as special backups the next day before prime daytime processing. We use T-REX from Dino Software http://www.dino-software.com/ There are other good products but I don't think in a large ICF catalog environment just IDCAMS, ICFRU, and DFHSM are good enough. I am a little leery of letting DFHSM backup catalogs using EXPORT automatically. We have seen performance issues in the past with EXPORT running on large catalogs. That is one of the reasons we use T-REX for backups it is a lot faster. You can have too many backups if the DFHSM backup slows us down during busy processing. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 "Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..." -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ICF Catalogs on SMS managed volumes Sam, As others have pointed out, it really doesn't matter where the catalogs are allocated. In my opinion, what *does* matter are your DR considerations, *and more importantly*, what catalog backup and recovery tool your shop is using. As Ron Ferguson always taught, "Catalogs do break!" And he should know. Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

