Tom, What menu bar are you talking about? There are icons on the desktop, and a task bar down at the bottom to show which applications are running. But there's never been a menu bar for Windows itself (not that I'm aware of). Or are you talking about a menu bar within one of the applications? If so, which one? I've been in Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer, Task Manager (etc), and they all have menu bars. So which application within Windows are you refering to, and if it doesn't have a menu bar then wouldn't that be a criticism of the application rather than Vista?
I've been using Vista for a while now (with SP1), and I have to say I think it's by far the best OS Microsoft has come out with. Of course, it still has light years to go to catch up to the mainframe... ;-) Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm > Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:46:52 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Microsoft Windows Vista vs. z/OS > To: [email protected] > > > > I just got a new ThinkPad with Microsoft Windows Vista installed. The > culture shock has been enough that I felt compelled to post this. One of > Conley's Corollaries is that "No PC software upgrade is complete until the > user interface has been entirely rewritten." Never was that corollary more > true than with Windows Vista. The interface, while visually stunning, bears > little resemblance to any Windows operating system preceding it. Standard > system utilities are completely different, and located in completely > different places. THEY TOOK THE MENU BAR! THE WHOLE F'ING MENU BAR! > (quick, somebody throw me a fifth of JD). This change alone is staggering. > The menu bar has been there for 20 years, and now poof! It's gone with a > wave of Bill's mighty hand. I can't begin to imagine how many BILLIONS, if > not TRILLIONS of dollars in lost productivity are going to be flushed down > the toilet when corporations around the world roll out this POS. And we'll > all just take it like the lemmings we are. > > If a z/OS developer had ever tried to foist this much change on the > mainframe platform, that developer and their product would have died a quick > death. The mainframe environment would never stand for the kind of changes > we see Microsoft and their PC ilk routinely throw at us. IBM still leads > the way in protecting the customer's investment (except when they don't, > like killing FLEX-ES for PWD, but I digress), a concept that Microsoft has > never embraced. This is one of the mainframe's biggest strengths, and it > was really brought home for me by Windows Vista. Can't wait to see how much > PC software I have to go out and buy for Vista compatibility (yeehaw). > > For those of you yet to experience Windows Vista, you're in for a treat > (not). Gimme ISPF any day. I can still run my 20-year old dialogs, but > Windows changes its interface every 20 minutes. I'll stick with the > mainframe. > > > > Regards, > Tom Conley > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > _________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

