Ed:

I am not sure I agree.
I swear by the return codes in SMPe Simple rule is anything above a 4 (four) needs attention. That is as simple as you can get. I never applied maintenance on a live running system, it was always on a sysres or DLIB(s) on a set of disks that were mounted as private (non SMS). The only issue I ever ran into at times were some library did not have enough library blocks and those were messaged to increase the space and then the job was resubmitted. It was a while ago but I think through a CBPDO I put on 4 or 5 years worth of maintenance (long story) and the only issue I ran into (other than directory space) was a pre req issue that IBM screwed up on (it was an issue of TSO/e and TCAS if I remember correctly its been twenty years). A return code of 4 to me was goodness. I still looked for problems but it was a matter of well it ran OK and just checking for an possible issues that should be looked at. Once in a great while there was a new library (system or dlib) that wasn't well documented and it need creation or in one or two cases a sysres library need additional directory blocks. One thing I always did after an apply I would backup the drive and compress every PDS on the volume (same thing with accept but I only did accepts once a year).
Return code 8 (or above ) was a red flag and it needed some attention.
I was also very careful to read PTF cover letters on anything that had a interesting hold on the PTF. Usually the holds were enough to alert of issues during the SMPe process that avoided potential problems. The record for me was an apply of 3000 PTF's (at one time). The job lasted for 12 hours and it (after a lot of checking before hand) ended with a 4.

Ed



On Oct 6, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote:

n 9/6/2012 8:31 PM, Skip Robinson wrote:
I have never understood the fixation with rock bottom return codes. SMP/E
maintenance is so much simpler without agonizing over every uneven
cobblestone along the path.

LOL. You have provided an excellent description of, what I consider to be, the most logical way to use SMP/E. Unless you're trying to fix a specific problem with a specific PTF, just put on the service that goes on smoothly and leave everything else alone. Don't sweat the details!

As a part-time sysprog, I abbreviate your approach even more. I have no time for pesky 'CHECK' operations. I submit a job that does an ACCEPT for all 14 DLIB zones we actively maintain. Space problems and the like are corrected and the job resubmitted if necessary (usually not). I then submit the job that does an APPLY for all 14 actively-maintained target zones. Again, space problems etc. are corrected and the job resubmitted if necessary. The whole thing usually takes about an hour when there are no space or other issues. Then we conduct a rolling IPL.

Oh, and did I mention that this is done on a LIVE system? We have no time or personnel to 'clone' systems, switch between res packs, etc. for regular maintenance. Our philosophy is similar to that described by Ed Webb at SHARE in Anaheim in session 11581: A Different Way to Perform z/OS Maintenance. https://share.confex.com/share/119/webprogram/Handout/Session11581/A %20Different%20Way%20to%20Perform%20zOS%20Maintenance.pdf

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