Coincidentally, it's about 20 years since the upgrade I got bit on. Much of the blood, sweat etc that Skip describes happened in those 20 years.
I agree with both Skip and Ed that SMP/E will do all the checking for you. Last time I did this, I still did the iterative runs of check until I got a zero, but I run the check as part of the order from network process. Whenever I decide to actually APPLY, I already have the clean exclude list. Unfortunately, I have probably run my last APPLY here. So, I can't say for sure if I would follow Skip's adive next time :( > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Jeremy Nicoll - ls mainframes > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:19 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SMP/E question > > Skip Robinson <jo.skip.robin...@sce.com> wrote: > > > While Ed and I differ on the need for CHECK and on the practice of > > injecting maintenance directly into the body of a running system, we > > agree on the pointlessness of chasing down sysmod error chains. > > It's abiut 20 years since I last did this. IIRC there's some operand > one can code on an APPLY which will pull in all the missing > prereq/coreq PTFs when you specify just the few you know you need. > > Even if we used that, we did so only on the APPLY CHECK to find out > what total set of PTFs were required for the intended stuff to APPLY. > And before actually running the APPLY someone would read the cover > letters for all the extra PTFs that were going to be applied that > weren't the ones we explicitly wanted to apply. Someone had to be > aware of areas of the system whose behaviours might be about to change. > > Are you saying you wouldn't bother doing that? > > > > We only applied fixes directly to test systems which would be IPLed > multiple times before those systems were cloned into first development > and then finally production systems. > > -- > Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
