I also, if memory servers me Cobol was also at Unisys in some sort Scott ford www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:13 AM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[email protected]> wrote: > In <[email protected]>, on 11/26/2012 > at 02:05 PM, Gerhard Postpischil <[email protected]> said: > >> The "first" language depends heavily on your definition of >> language. IBM's early users on the 700 series coded machine >> instructions, and manually assigned storage locations, something I >> would not call a language, but transcription. Assemblers on other >> machines were only marginally better. > > Are you comparing assemblers on other machines to, e.g., SAP, or to > machine language. They were certainly more than marginally better than > machine language. > > >> Admiral Hopper's CoBOL > > It wasn't hers also she certainly contributed a lot; it came from the > Short Range[1] Committee of CODASYL. > >> existed in simpler form by 1952, > > FLOW-MATIC didn't exist in 1952, and wasn't COBOL, although it was > certainly one of the languages that CODASYL looked at. > >> but didn't become available on IBM machines until 1959. > > Well, COMTRAN was available in 1957, but the COBOL specifications > weren't available until December 1959 and IBSYS came out in 1960. > > Do you still have the -0 IBSYS/IBJOB manuals? I'm wondering what the > exact date was for IBJOB COBOL. > > [1] Nor did she claim it was. > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT > Atid/2 <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> > We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. > (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
