John,

Agree totally, but we need to convince the powers to be that hackers must be 
licensed and monitored

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll 
understand. - Chinese Proverb


On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:35 AM, John Gilmore <[email protected]> wrote:

> Shane's point is important.  The old question whose ox is being gored
> can never be avoided.
> 
> I have heard applause for the government-sponsored hackers who
> destroyed many of the centrifuges the Iranian government is/was using
> to separate uranium isotopes.
> 
> Or again, It is no secret that the 'supersecret' agencies of every
> major power have plans for disrupting, among other things, the
> electricity-distribution grids and telephone networks of their enemies
> in time of war (and in circumstances short of war too).
> 
> One of the problems that has not been much addressed is that of
> legitimating---training, licensing, and supervising---hackers.  At
> least in societies that use many locks, locksmiths are essential; and
> this analogy is a useful one.  Licensed locksmiths seldom burgle, even
> though their skills would make it easy for them to do so.  They have
> other, societally legitimized uses for these skills.
> 
> Finally, there are the large issues of what classes of information it
> is legitimate to sequester, protect, and charge for access to, of
> where this "business model" is appropriate and should be protected by
> the machinery of the law.
> 
> The American editions of this week's Economist contain an obituary for
> Aaron Schwartz, an enormously talented programmer and attractive human
> being; and the charges, "hugely disproportionate to what he had done",
> brought by federal prosecutors here in Massachusetts certainly
> contributed to the tragedy of his suicide.
> 
> In sum, this is a knotty set of issues for which there is no
> simplistic resolution available.   Revulsion from some of these
> exploits is inevitable and appropriate, but moralism will not take us
> far in dealing with them
> 
> John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
> 
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