On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:19 AM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is that like the eternal ax (that handle has been changed 20 times and the > blade 30 times, but it's still the same ax)? > Or like I read in one book: "I've only had one drink. It's been topped off 20 times. But it's only one drink." Or more like a military organization. The U.K Coldstream Guards has been in existence since 1650. Lots of different commanders and soldiers. But the same regiment. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf > of Pommier, Rex [[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:59 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes" > > Maybe based on their "logic", my z14 is 30 years old because we're running > an application on it that was written in the late 80s. Never mind that it > has been maintained for the past 30+ years, since we can find 30 year old > code in the application, the entire thing must be 30+ years old. > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of Peter Bishop > Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:24 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes" > > Interesting re 2): > > "The survey found that organizations are running an average of four > mainframes with an average age of 17 years. Sixty-four percent are running > mainframes between 10 and 20 years old, with 28% running machines that are > 20 to 30 years old. " > > So 2/7 are running machines over 20+ years old? And 2/3 over 10 years? > What does that even mean? Smells fishy to me. What is the sample size? > Is it biased somehow? > > Cheers, > Peter > > On 9/06/2020 10:02 pm, Bob Bridges wrote: > > A coworker just sent me this brief article. > > > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1JN9E1bGCX8mpl6qPkrSEev2O0fNt81naiQJbFUhhlGtqM9bJimsEWYFVu_WWDFv8b1LEShSbIYjTypvbccq0QTe8fSSnqtPTlIl5WSobiXufZ6TbWYqAd2zB6QnAJclJP_rAf4DgxXIypS7ymmvlkSe5TWlyy0y-0iLJVkpBun7o0cLqD4cYGunrKLpI9mR7jXtQTEW5mFdkn4ebl587wTx_Mz8k7HoG9dO1TptQ9A5akIhDp4Cvmz46L8Nvm7qca8D7I2KGd5alIDSNBefZDXYOIDnU14SegaPCQ5ON9WE8lD77ARJjrfke6SFteYf1D9CilsWGSdey--UR8R4B30tUGtIG2gflxGCGCckkwQdiMhCYFTxxVKpuXNl8glorWalBxAVso0bIdzEn7xAtz-0iemamNd1GxIAswPave4LokMoaE1c8NYBjr-kWaGaB/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.techrepublic.com%2Farticle%2Feveryone-wants-to-retire-mainfram > > es-but-74-of-modernization-efforts-fail/ > > > > I'm interested in two aspects of this: > > > > 1) The writer uses the word "modernization" quite a bit, and as far as I > can tell she uses it, without explanation, to mean "switching from > mainframes to more recently invented platforms". This is the old > assumption we've talked about recently. > > > > 2) There's a really surprising number in there: > > > > "...almost 100% of survey respondents plan to move legacy applications > to the cloud this year and the motivation to move is clear: > > > > - 60% strongly agree they will be left behind competitively if they > > fail to modernize > > - 33% say modernizing has allowed the company to be more reactive to > > market changes > > - 34% say legacy modernization has accelerated digital transformation > > projects > > > > About three-quarters of leaders said they have started a modernization > program but failed to complete it...." > > > > Can that "almost 100%" claim be true? I confess that three out of my > last three clients are talking about eliminating the mainframe, but I > supposed it to be an anomaly. Maybe the survey used the word "modernize" > and the author ~assumed~ this must mean dropping the mainframe. > > > > The article also says "Mainframes are still critical to business > operations with 71% of the Fortune 500 depending on these machines, > including 92 of the world's 100 largest banks". Come on - she's telling us > that almost ~all~ of those companies intend to switch legacy applications > to the cloud? I just can't buy that. ~My~ bank had certainly better not > be planning such a move. > > > > --- > > Bob Bridges, [email protected], cell 336 382-7313 > > > > /* If a problem has a single neck, it has a simple solution. */ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from > disclosure and may be legally privileged. 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