At GM, circa 1983-84, we had plants all over the country that worked off of a mainframe in Warren, Ohio. (Packard Electric) After the transition to EDS, those same plants worked off the mainframe in Charlotte, NC. (They moved multiple GM divisions there) Early cloud processing, outsourced to EDS. Now, any time I perform a banking transaction, it gets processed wherever the JP Morgan mainframe is located. If I access my photos, they are retrieved from Apple or Amazon at one of their DC’s. The only difference is in 1984 you used a stationary PC or Terminal. Now you use a smaller PC called a laptop or phone.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 28, 2021, 10:29 AM, Joel C. Ewing <[email protected]> wrote: No, "cloud" and "outsourcing" are two distinct concepts. While it is very likely these days that all "outsourcing" would involve cloud-based services, it is not true that "cloud-based" services must be "outsourced". A corporation can easily choose to run its own distributed, in-house cloud services. Any corporate data center that supports branch offices with remote access over the Internet to corporate applications fits the definition of cloud-based computing from the viewpoint of the branch offices. If the corporate data center is not outsourced, then neither are the cloud-based services it provides to its branches. J.C. Ewing On 5/27/21 9:03 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: > All clouds are just outsourcing. Renamed cloud so people would think they are > on the new tech. I was part of EDS outsourcing of GM back in the 80’s. Moving > data processing from GM plants to EDS data centers. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 9:26 AM, Mark Jacobs > <[email protected]> wrote: > > AFAIK you're correct. $Previousjob moved our datacenter to ZCloud which was > hosted and supported by IBM Global Services. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get&[email protected] > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On Thursday, May 27th, 2021 at 9:22 AM, Keith Gooding > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have been asked if a z/OS software product is supported on IBM Zcloud. >> >> As far as I can see Zcloud is just old-fashioned outsourcing where a z/os >> system runs in an LPAR on someone else’s computer, albeit with the ability >> to dynamically add computing resources for temporary workload spikes etc. >> >> Am I missing something or is there ‘proper’ cloud technology, such >> provisioning of middleware using cloud provisioning like AWS etc. >> >> Keith Gooding >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ... -- Joel C. Ewing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
