Yup, you’re always right. Sorry.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 28, 2021, 2:31 PM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: ObInigoMontoya No, the difference between {I believe the firearm to be unloaded" and "I have verified that the firearm is unloaded" is precisely semantics. The range officers has this foolish idea that the difference matters, and ignoring the difference *will* lead to disciplinary action. No curses, no kicking or beating, just a quick trip to the CO and an Article 15. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Bill Johnson [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 11:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IBM Zcloud - is it just outsourcing ? An unloaded versus loaded gun is quite a bit more than semantics. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:36 AM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, and the difference between a trainee who shoots himself and a trainee who inspects his rifle before claiming that it is unloaded is only semantics, but the cadre at boot camp thought that the distinction was important. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Johnson <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IBM Zcloud - is it just outsourcing ? Semantics. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 28, 2021, 10:29 AM, Joel C. Ewing <[email protected]> wrote: No, "cloud" and "outsourcing" are two distinct concepts. While it is very likely these days that all "outsourcing" would involve cloud-based services, it is not true that "cloud-based" services must be "outsourced". A corporation can easily choose to run its own distributed, in-house cloud services. Any corporate data center that supports branch offices with remote access over the Internet to corporate applications fits the definition of cloud-based computing from the viewpoint of the branch offices. If the corporate data center is not outsourced, then neither are the cloud-based services it provides to its branches. J.C. Ewing On 5/27/21 9:03 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: > All clouds are just outsourcing. Renamed cloud so people would think they are > on the new tech. I was part of EDS outsourcing of GM back in the 80’s. Moving > data processing from GM plants to EDS data centers. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 9:26 AM, Mark Jacobs > <[email protected]> wrote: > > AFAIK you're correct. $Previousjob moved our datacenter to ZCloud which was > hosted and supported by IBM Global Services. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1qAOMAZEgf7ZMHqcX3uzwELDLRR1G1qcwNB2BeZQnwHEDWQqxIrxIHxCtU6R2ku6Y-bjG2tGtYnLal7LD4jhYC8TQ1pKyUGwojhTrz4KOeSfBy5rZSFZI71fhNlruZZfXEf83wCwFiK_0z0Tjh8MRv55xkGvwP9TXbB08_aDcmx3lYJMX9Fx0vWlhhFzCI0yp4mJolK_3I5uSf6XFwbXZIZlRUPZlrGCOlrA6TVGg8mJHa1y8ydg7QxhVxEP70ln0fv1xIV4DUtX0G4YL_SfY4OGT_CNo-qBaVi6dNWztlzRitfXF2AuS4V14ANPd9Zwg671dD0pzRimnLbkWXWT8HJPC2YGgOvKl4MzQLB8la36rXE207CyNZSPaPMHtC_TmUfXKmBTATNaRzlHbrFzZMqYkG0zla1csJfAcgVSHkVtJ9bKSs8h6I18FJmP-OA3T/https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flookup%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On Thursday, May 27th, 2021 at 9:22 AM, Keith Gooding > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have been asked if a z/OS software product is supported on IBM Zcloud. >> >> As far as I can see Zcloud is just old-fashioned outsourcing where a z/os >> system runs in an LPAR on someone else’s computer, albeit with the ability >> to dynamically add computing resources for temporary workload spikes etc. >> >> Am I missing something or is there ‘proper’ cloud technology, such >> provisioning of middleware using cloud provisioning like AWS etc. >> >> Keith Gooding >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ... -- Joel C. 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