An unloaded versus loaded gun is quite a bit more than semantics.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 28, 2021, 11:36 AM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: Yes, and the difference between a trainee who shoots himself and a trainee who inspects his rifle before claiming that it is unloaded is only semantics, but the cadre at boot camp thought that the distinction was important. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Johnson <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IBM Zcloud - is it just outsourcing ? Semantics. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, May 28, 2021, 10:29 AM, Joel C. Ewing <[email protected]> wrote: No, "cloud" and "outsourcing" are two distinct concepts. While it is very likely these days that all "outsourcing" would involve cloud-based services, it is not true that "cloud-based" services must be "outsourced". A corporation can easily choose to run its own distributed, in-house cloud services. Any corporate data center that supports branch offices with remote access over the Internet to corporate applications fits the definition of cloud-based computing from the viewpoint of the branch offices. If the corporate data center is not outsourced, then neither are the cloud-based services it provides to its branches. J.C. Ewing On 5/27/21 9:03 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: > All clouds are just outsourcing. Renamed cloud so people would think they are > on the new tech. I was part of EDS outsourcing of GM back in the 80’s. Moving > data processing from GM plants to EDS data centers. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Thursday, May 27, 2021, 9:26 AM, Mark Jacobs > <[email protected]> wrote: > > AFAIK you're correct. $Previousjob moved our datacenter to ZCloud which was > hosted and supported by IBM Global Services. > > Mark Jacobs > > Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. > > GPG Public Key - > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1qAOMAZEgf7ZMHqcX3uzwELDLRR1G1qcwNB2BeZQnwHEDWQqxIrxIHxCtU6R2ku6Y-bjG2tGtYnLal7LD4jhYC8TQ1pKyUGwojhTrz4KOeSfBy5rZSFZI71fhNlruZZfXEf83wCwFiK_0z0Tjh8MRv55xkGvwP9TXbB08_aDcmx3lYJMX9Fx0vWlhhFzCI0yp4mJolK_3I5uSf6XFwbXZIZlRUPZlrGCOlrA6TVGg8mJHa1y8ydg7QxhVxEP70ln0fv1xIV4DUtX0G4YL_SfY4OGT_CNo-qBaVi6dNWztlzRitfXF2AuS4V14ANPd9Zwg671dD0pzRimnLbkWXWT8HJPC2YGgOvKl4MzQLB8la36rXE207CyNZSPaPMHtC_TmUfXKmBTATNaRzlHbrFzZMqYkG0zla1csJfAcgVSHkVtJ9bKSs8h6I18FJmP-OA3T/https%3A%2F%2Fapi.protonmail.ch%2Fpks%2Flookup%3Fop%3Dget%26search%3Dmarkjacobs%40protonmail.com > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On Thursday, May 27th, 2021 at 9:22 AM, Keith Gooding > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have been asked if a z/OS software product is supported on IBM Zcloud. >> >> As far as I can see Zcloud is just old-fashioned outsourcing where a z/os >> system runs in an LPAR on someone else’s computer, albeit with the ability >> to dynamically add computing resources for temporary workload spikes etc. >> >> Am I missing something or is there ‘proper’ cloud technology, such >> provisioning of middleware using cloud provisioning like AWS etc. >> >> Keith Gooding >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ... -- Joel C. Ewing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
