So if I get my banking transactions by Capital One APP via AWS, that’s cloud, but if I get those same banking transactions via JP Morgan APP which acquires the records via CICS transaction from DB2 that’s not cloud?
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, June 17, 2022, 12:56 PM, zMan <zedgarhoo...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm highly suspicious of cloud in general, don't get me wrong. But IBM can't just call CICS "cloud" and expect it to mean anything. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one: when the rest of the industry says "cloud" these days, they don't just mean outsourcing, and definitely don't mean CICS. And CICS isn't a synonym for outsourcing in any case. Actually, if you think of cloud services in terms of HTTPS transactions, CICS isn't that far off in some ways--but it still isn't the same thing, more an older, pre-Internet version of something similar. Yes, CICS can serve web pages; that doesn't make CICS = cloud! "Mainframe modernization" is a pretty bogus term, nicely loaded: "Hmm, if mainframe modernization exists, mainframes must be old-fashioned/obsolete/behind". Wrong, as we know. "Mainframe emulation" is closer, only that tends to make us think zPDT, Hercules, et al.; "z/OS emulation" seems more accurate to me, but isn't the term that folks use, so it doesn't help at this point. It's a mess. But none of this discussion, interesting as it is, relates to the fact that IBM claims to have a cloud presence BUT has chosen to host their offering in AWS. Those two items are pretty hard to reconcile. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
