I've read various accounts, one of which had IBM offering unacceptable terms on a take it or leave it basis.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of Jay Maynard [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 9:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] I'm not so sure about Kildall...anyone who snubs a business meeting with IBM to go flying (a worthy endeavor in and of itself) isn't businessman enough to compete with Jobs and Gates. On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 3:05 AM Wayne Bickerdike <[email protected]> wrote: > Very interesting if one-sided interview. He gives Steve Wozniak very little > credit although Woz really was the inventor and Jobs the salesman in the > partnership. > > I read Sculley's autobiography many years ago (From Pepsi to Apple). It > doesn't describe events quite the same way. > > Nevertheless, good that it has surfaced at a time where nobody gets sued > for defamation. > > After I left IBM in 1979 I wrote some applications on the Apple II. It was > a challenge and from an electrical engineering point of view, it was poor > with a weak power supply that ran the CPU, Floppy drives which caused the > screen to wobble when operating. > > At the same time Apple were turning out the IIE, there was a host of other > nicer systems, such as the Cromemco System 3 and Altos 8000 which ran CP/M > and MP/M and had a more robust construction. > > It was a shame that Gary Kildall died so young, he would have been a great > competitor for Jobs and Gates. > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 9:28 AM Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote: > > > A friend shared this with me and I thought it was just extraordinary. It > > is not "mainframe" but his comments on what happens when the marketeers > run > > a tech company will resonate with many of us. It’s a fairly long read. > It’s > > a transcript of a long interview done for a TV show – only a few minutes > > were actually used – by Bob Cringely, and thought to be lost. Steve Jobs > > was at the time (1995) running NeXT, which he was to sell to Apple a > month > > later. It is a fascinating read. > > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1IAmp-maS5zK07QVG5wLnvKrQPOZtgIewqTKLr2KV35PIEuRIiMUKvfickkymEBsH5PUbnQhedGDYbe_ZVU8q-Z6Qi6i-oNZsnrNuYUXiBIe9IsScbdhXj44ZLqRJL8eqSrJ4Oq3aJWZtJfrcrhQlXj05Bt05k8400ux4RoHTyUV3y9HskOehMGW2fOeD0W4r2y10dMtXiRrcGor-jKRCCssVE28a-h_KoNY1qFnpsXhFI_WTV3yZuNM-8skVyRuKiO2ls2V4Fxzh4O4MWJN8xTHQ2VuVksye9VVTJONrr8S4mosvYQ5wv0WqPGZ7NUxeYSfZdNcUny6YCS3SkGqnycBaQ9t39cvLjnR-z_Ei61givjqtacB2teyNxVLw2iudUjTI24EtSQi14Cu5Ge9W0kkVmPYGIEBCdKmx0B6_YOFu-rhd1OhkOsGi6eVTqpU3/https%3A%2F%2Fsameerbajaj.com%2Fjobs%2F > > > > Charles > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > Wayne V. Bickerdike > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Jay Maynard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
