> On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 04:03:52 PM PDT, David Spiegel wrote:
> You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..."

> AFAIK, (since VM R6.0) this statement has never been true.
Hi David,

Can you explain why this is false or how I have this wrong? Steve said device 
but he really meant to say virtual device. The antonym of ATTACH is DETACH but 
strangely DETACH has many antonyms (e.g. ATTACH, DEFINE CONSOLE, DEFINE GRAF, 
...). If you detach a console, then the antonym is define console. If you 
detach a real address, then the antonym is attach. As for "require", I think 
this is what you are talking about being false. I should have been clearer and 
said the opposite of detach console is define console (not attach console).



    On Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 04:03:52 PM PDT, David Spiegel 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 Hi Jon,
You said: "...Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE" ..."
AFAIK, (since VM R6.0) this statement has never been true.

Regards,
David

On 2023-07-26 23:37, Jon Perryman wrote:
>  > On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 07:14:21 PM PDT, Steve Horein 
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just out of curiosity, is there such a thing as VM "attach" to reconnect a
>> device at a later time?
>
> Phil would need to verify what I'm saying. "detach" is a generic command that 
> eliminates a virtual address regardless of how the virtual address was 
> defined. "attach" is for attaching real VM addresses to a user at a virtual 
> address. Detaching a "console" requires a "DEFINE CONSOLE". Detaching a 
> "GRAF" requires a "DEFINE GRAF". I think there are several variations of 
> DEFINE specific to the virtual device type.
>
>
>      On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 07:14:21 PM PDT, Steve Horein 
><[email protected]> wrote:
>  
>  To my understanding, that sounds correct.
>
> Explicitly removing the NIP *console* definition, though leaving the
> address defined/intact in the IODF for later use by MVS console services
> (CONSOLxx), would have the same effect as making the device inaccessible,
> either through (presumably) bad cabling in my case, or through VM detach
> that you describe, which sounds more dynamic.
>
> Just out of curiosity, is there such a thing as VM "attach" to reconnect a
> device at a later time?

  

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