TAKE THIS CRAP ELSEWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doug Fuerst
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From "Bill Johnson" <[email protected]>
To [email protected]
Date 8/15/2023 9:53:14 AM
Subject Re: The ultimate (another one!) definition of mainframe
A 13 year old girl in Mississippi was forced to give birth to her rapist baby.
All because christofascist want to force their incorrect interpretation of the
bible onto everyone.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/14/mississippi-abortion-ban-girl-raped-gives-birth
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On Tuesday, August 15, 2023, 9:28 AM, Bill Johnson
<[email protected]> wrote:
Even a book listed as fiction in the library has some elements of truth. The
Bible is fiction. Christians are atheists when you bring up Roman, Greek,
Aztec, Norse, or other non Christian gods. As with the aforementioned gods,
they don’t exist either.
Nobody ever seems to address the crusades in which Christians killed hundreds
of thousands and perhaps millions. And nobody addresses the pedophile ring
called the Catholic Church.
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On Tuesday, August 15, 2023, 4:10 AM, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:
Nonsense; the Bible is a lot of things, including History. The fun starts when
people argue about which parts are what. There's lot's of allegory, metaphor
poetry, etc., but there are also things that match archaeological data.
I have this fantasy of a biblical literalist trying to explain how every word
of Song of Songs is literally true
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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The Bible is 100% fiction. Christians have killed and molested more people than
anyone. Pro life?
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On Monday, August 14, 2023, 10:04 PM, David Spiegel
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Bill,
You said: "...Noah never collected 2 of every species. .."
That is close to what the Bible says, but is inaccurate.
Please see GE 7:2
(The verse says Noah was commanded to take 7 (possibly 14) of each
species of "clean" animals. (The Hebrew word טְּהוֹרָ֗ does not translate
to English. It is usually translated as clean, which although close is
incorrect.)
Regards,
David
On 2023-08-14 21:16, Bill Johnson wrote:
Yes I do.
It has also been seen as a depiction of nomadic conflict, the struggle for
land and resources (and divine favour) between nomadic herders and sedentary
farmers. The Academic theologian Joseph Blenkinsopp holds that Cain and Abel
are symbolic rather than real.
And Noah never collected 2 of every species.
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On Monday, August 14, 2023, 9:12 PM, David Spiegel
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Bill,
You said: "... Cain & Abel which is fictional. ..."
Do you have proof for this assertion?
Regards,
David
On 2023-08-14 20:02, Bill Johnson wrote:
I worked with many brilliant computer people over the years. I also worked
with people like most of the usual posters here. People who got into IT because
they were white and breathing. Many from the military. Ask 10 posters here a
question and you get 4-5 different answers and every poster thinks his answer
is absolute. There are literally thousands of mainframe system programmers, yet
the 20-30 here will swear because their tiny shop eliminated the mainframe,
mainframes are dying. Even when faced with facts that say otherwise. Plus, the
security on the platform is unmatched. Hackers would love to be able to hack
the mainframe since that’s where the money is. Banks being the big one.
I notice Bob Bridges listed these. “Did we learnanything from the Korean
conflict, from the American civil war, the 100 Years' war, the Peloponnesian
war, from Cain vs Abel?”
I’m shocked Bob didn’t mention the Crusades. Where “pro life Christians” massacred
hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions over 200 years. But did mention Cain
& Abel which is fictional.
Retirement is wonderful. I no longer have to deal with coworkers who can
barely breathe and chew gum.
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On Monday, August 14, 2023, 7:37 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <[email protected]>
wrote:
A bigger head beats a bigger mouth every time. Johnson by name Johnson by
nature.
Yeah, I found this on the internet too:
Noun[edit
<https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=johnson&action=edit§ion=4>]
*johnson* (*plural* *johnsons
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/johnsons#English>*)
1. (slang <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#slang>) Penis
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/penis>. quotations ▼synonym ▲Synonyms:
*see* Thesaurus:penis <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thesaurus:penis>
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:33 AM Wayne Bickerdike <[email protected]> wrote:
Way to miss the point Bill. Do you write programs that miss out things
because they can be easily found on the internet?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:23 AM Bill Johnson <
[email protected]> wrote:
https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/windows-nt-and-vms-rest-story
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On Monday, August 14, 2023, 7:17 PM, Wayne Bickerdike <[email protected]>
wrote:
Windows NT came from the VAX guys, I think.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:15 AM Wayne Bickerdike <[email protected]>
wrote:
*The facts. According to Bill Johnson.American computer programmer
Timothy
Paterson, a developer for Seattle Computer Products, wrote the original
operating system for the Intel Corporation’s 8086 microprocessor in
1980,
initially calling it QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System), which was
soon renamed 86-DOS. A year later, fledgling company Microsoft
purchased exclusive rights to sell the system, renamed MS-DOS, to IBM
for
their newly developed IBM-PC. IBM-compatible versions were marketed as
PC-DOS. Version 1.0 was released in 1981; additional upgraded versions
kept
pace with the rapidly evolving PC. Windows 95, introduced by Microsoft
in
1995, incorporated MS-DOS 7.0 but ultimately superseded the MS-DOS
platform. Starting with Windows NT, Microsoft’s operating systems were
designed independently of MS-DOS, though they were capable of running
some
MS-DOS applications.*
Facts but missing lots of pivotal events. No mention of Gary Kildall.
Windows 2.0 was a brief look at a Windows O/S. Windows 3.0 preceded WIN
95
as did Windows 3.1.
Really who cares?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:09 AM Jon Perryman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 03:15:12 PM PDT, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/14/23 3:16 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
My hang up is that -- as I understand it -- DOS was /never/ IBM's to
start with.
DOS was /Microsoft's.
Again, if you want some insights, you can watch
https://youtu.be/Qc5khH5gllg?t=339 that seems to be the prevalent
story.
Is this different from the story as you understand it?
1. MS-DOS did not exist prior to IBM / Bill Gates meeting.
2. IBM wanted a new OS. IBM contractred Gates to create this OS which
was
to be called PC DOS.
3. Because IBM was gun shy from anti-trust lawsuits, it chose to
exclude
ownership of PC DOS thus allowing PC-DOS to be sold as MS-DOS by
Microsoft.
Microsoft was not the sole owner of DOS. One piece of software was
owned
by IBM and Microsoft. It was IBM's choice not to retain sole ownership
of
DOS.
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