There are instructions like SIE that IBM no longer documents for the general 
public. There might be instructions for optional features that are not part of 
the architecture.

Back on the S/370 there were scads of instructions that were not part of the 
architecture and were documented in separate manuals; I'm not aware of any for 
Z.


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On z/Architecture, are there instructions that the machine will execute that 
are not following the Principles of Operation documentation? Or would all such 
instructions get a specification exception?

Here's I'm thinking of HP-41 Synthetic programming 
[https://secure-web.cisco.com/1ZbDP0lGBgv9zypLKJt_T9fljkaXMef-YUQF-UlzphICFeuZn1HaIeGLXz6HhP01eDvMA-UUAypnpjrEK87QHgNqBIoja4zBjAhdzkKEhR3IpgjPYoqiYzhs43x4tlUxYmQ20qpt8kqoPhnPDIEq9dKEdwXbMDwGN31329sV_cniYGx5uEIdkw3cMWTraxCtxXbmoNZc7806pFpfyeI8_In4pDIoFAgDcHy9ee6S3rmGHcFwuKTqbSfOnFunVwPNmX8vXupfAMxwIR_a8LNCqkaDQGx4J11CtTryY5miIVoqvi87AjAPy4BZKUOeSGvh5UoHDwgbPR_LybmU7-jJHt6FHG3pYM8kqETAhaykmIlFmmE-uzDEhNumsJlxxrBxWz-EWfadO6UyKC0u94N7kaJqfuSqzsKcqOfHMosYx1fA/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hpmuseum.org%2Fprog%2Fsynth41.htm],
 where you could exploit bugs in the calculator to construct instructions that 
the calculator execute, but would normally not allow you to enter.

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No building of instructions. My solution allowed for a short read only 
parameter instead of a long code sequence.

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 20:55:23 +0000, Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote:

>You can't accurately predict risks when you make wild guesses about the use 
>case. Certainly my use case does not require a nonstandard calling sequence.

The OP said he was using as part of the parmlist.

In your case, were SCONs only used to build instructions instead of processing 
it as data?  Was your use significantly simpler that the other standard 
solutions?

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