On 13 Sep 2013 07:26:50 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>In <[email protected]>, on 09/12/2013
>   at 07:29 PM, Clark Morris <[email protected]> said:
>
>>the person who decided that local SNA
>>327X devices could only be accessed though VTAM
>
>They used to be accessed by TCAM as well. If your complaint is that
>the CONSOLE address space can't access them directly, but only as SNA
>consoles, that would require that the entire cluster be used for
>nothing but consoles, or that the CONSOLE address space was bloated
>with MSNF code.

My complaint, poorly stated is that locally attached 327x devices had
to be NON-SNA in order to be used as consoles.  Since my memory never
was perfect, they may not have been BiSync. 

Clark Morris
>
>>requiring shops to have 2 BiSync 327x controllers for console availability
>
>There is no support for bisynch consoles.
>
>>At least code to read PDSE's should be available to NIP and maybe
>>SYS1.NUCLEUS.
>
>Another case where IBM developers failed to learn from earlier IBM
>projects; TSS/360 had page oriented PDS[1] support way back when.
>
>[1] Actually, the entire volume containing a VPAM library was page
>    formatted.

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