On 11 Sep 2013 13:59:52 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>I had begun to think that my experience with PDSEs was somehow
>atypical, too lucky, because I had not encountered the grievous
>problems that featured in others' war stories.
>
>I therefore spent a long afternoon trying to reproduce and clear some
>of these problems.  My experience was much like Mark's.  The problems
>reported here did---some of them anyway---occur; but they were readily
>cleared away.
>
>I conclude that this is a problem of a different sort.   Some people
>will continue to use PDSs, 3270 emulators, and the like until they are
>pried, irrelevantly, from their cold dead hands.
>
>They are and should be free to do this, but it  needs to be understood
>that no technical argument will avail against their rooted
>preferences.

While I have been away from systems programming for over a decade, I
am appalled to see that a PDSE still cannot contain SYS1.LINKLIB,
SYS1.LPALIB and SYS1.NUCLEUS.  Whoever came up with the idea that a
major access method should be done by a started task should be
consigned to the same hell as the person who decided that local SNA
327X devices could only be accessed though VTAM thus requiring shops
to have 2 BiSync 327x controllers for console availability.  Would
anyone care if NIP took a cylinder, 2 cylinders or even 100 cylinders.
If started task is a good idea for PDSE, it should be equally good for
VSAM.  At least code to read PDSE's should be available to NIP and
maybe SYS1.NUCLEUS.  

Clark Morris
>
>John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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