On 24 November 2013 14:07, John Gilmore <[email protected]> wrote:
> Now 'antique' and 'antiquated' are closely related etymologically; but
> 'antiquated' is pejorative.  To antiquate is to make obsolete, and I
> am not sure that z/OS is obsolete.

And one might reasonably also say that "antique", while not pejorative
in the way that "antiquated" is, nonetheless is usually used in a
positive sense as a mark of respect for age, marvel that it has lasted
as long as it has, admiration for the fine workmanship of the day, and
so on. It's certainly rare to hear antique as a positive description
of a technically current device or system.

Then there are the doubtless closely related "antiquity" and "an
antiquity", neither of which is likely to be good thing when used in
respect of a current operating system.

On the matter of how old something must be to be an antique, I have a
grandfather (formally "long case") clock made around 1800, and a
receipt showing that it was bought in an antique shop by my great
great uncle in the late 1890s. My mother said of this clock that it
was an antique because it was 90 years old, and she understood that to
be the British rule of the time. Perhaps it still holds, but in that
case the TOD clock will have rolled over some time before even the
ancestors of z/OS qualify. Quite coincidently, *I* will qualify within
a couple of months of that rollover.

Tony H.

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