Ahhh. So you want the system to find the file "filename" *anywhere that it
exists* when you say "*verb* filename"?

Hmm. Do I want that? Do I want what worked fine yesterday to stop working
today because a download or unzip created a new "filename"? Even
disambiguation via prompts would be extremely irritating.

I might be interested in a proposal to make the path more pervasive -- so
it would pick up the first "filename" in the path *on any command*, sort of
like globbing. Haven't really thought that through, but it would at least
be predictable (modulo the same problem of "Yesterday, it picked up  one
version of 'filename', in the third directory in my path, and today it
picks up another, in the second directory in my path", but that's at least
easy to figure out).

Let me back it up a level: what's the problem you're trying to solve? Are
you trying to make things more user-friendly? I submit that the
unpredictability this introduces would have the opposite effect.


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Ze'ev Atlas <zatl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >Ze'ev appears to me to want to graft what are essentially interactive,
> >conversational facilities onto JCL, which is a batch facility.  This
> >may well be possible, but doing it will require careful thought and
> >much experimentation/evolutionary operation.
>
> I already concluded that the z/OS side may be hopeless because the
> limitations of file name are too entrenched in the OS.  The Unix side
> (especially Linux that is open source) is a better candidate.  No, I do not
> envision batch oriented only features.  Once the file is committed in the
> traditional way (conversational or batch), its location would be known, so
> when you say in the shell (AND THIS IS ONLY ONE EXAMPLE):
>
> cp filename ~/myfolder/myappfolder
>
> filename will be found regardless of where it is.  If filename is common
> among few files, the system may guess, using some algorithm (that indeed,
> needs much experimentation/evolutionary operation in its development) which
> one you need.  Otherwise, you might be required to say (AND THIS IS ONLY
> ONE EXAMPLE):
>
> cp --ppath myapp1 --date 01/01/2013-02/15/2013 filename
> ~/myfolder/myappfolder
>
> If one bothers to give unique names and if the algorithm for dis-ambiguity
> would be good, the first example would prevail most of the time.
>
> Please forgive the yelling "(AND THIS IS ONLY ONE EXAMPLE)". While
> obviously we need people to question all possible details so they would be
> answered and thought about in the aforementioned algorithm. I do not want
> people to shoot the idea down just because I referred to only one example.
>  I begin to have fun in toying this ides!
>
> ZA
>
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