This is kind of interesting. I am a developer now but I remember back in the good old days of system programming work. It seems like as far as installing a new IBM product, we could not get any help what so ever. If you had a production problem, they were great. I bet, hopefully, that has changed. A person would think they would be all over helping a new customer fire up a new machine.
Duffy Nightingale Sound Software Printing, Inc. www.soundsoftware.us [email protected] Phone: 360.385.3456 Fax: 973.201.8921 The information in this e-mail, and any attachment therein is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please return the e-mail to the sender and delete it from your computer. Although Sound Software Printing, Inc. attempts to sweep e-mail and attachments for viruses, it does not guarantee that either are virus-free and accepts no liability for any damage sustained as a result of viruses. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:41:44 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: > >> z/VM as a matter of SOP provides a DVD OS image that can be IPLed >> directly from an HMC. z/OS does not. You have to obtain a volume-dump >> copy of a runnable system, then perform 'stand-alone' restores onto >> DASD volumes that you can access. However, even that process is >> difficult until you can implement an I/O configuration that allows >> you to access any of your peripherals. >> >> As others have suggested, do not try this at home alone. >> > This sounds like an eventuality that IBM didn't anticipate. > > What if customer is tapeless? Loaner tape drive? Pre-built system > shipped on new DASD? As someone else posted, the COD is available on DVD; it has been available that way for some years now. We did this because (a) a number of customers are "going tapeless" and (b) our current technology drives and those of another popular mainframe tape vendor do not share a common recording format as they did in the past, so tapes recorded on our drives are no longer readable on theirs (and, of course, vice versa). So the question is no longer, "Do you have tape drives," but rather, "Do you have *compatible* tape drives"? In fact, more customers are now ordering the COD on DVD than on tape, which I found a bit surprising when I heard that earlier this month. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
