> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 1:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape? > > On Tue, 12 May 2015 11:33:45 -0700, retired mainframer wrote: > > > > ... We could disable the OMVS and ISHELL TSO commands and no one would > notice. > > > Might they still use Rexx "address SYSCALLL ..."?
We do have some system admin EXECs to tweak a few HFS/ZFS things after IBM or ISV has installed some maintenance in the file system. > >There is no user data in any of our HFS/ZFS datasets. > > > Unless they put it there. OK, I'll rephrase. None of our users has ever put any data into a ZFS or HFS. > >If we could go from DVD directly to SMPPTFIN and SMPHOLD, ... > > > What about RELFILEs? Processing RELFILEs from DVD should be no more complicated than processing them from tape now. They are stored in DASD datasets with a specific naming convention. That convention could be used just as easily for the DVD files. > >using DVDs would be more attractive. ... > > > Where would you mount the DVDs? IBM needs to address this. If IBM says, The same place we mount them now, on a PC. > "Desktop system," IBM better make such a system available, even if only > through independent vendors, but with requirements rigorously specified. > (I should be able to go into Best Buy with a printout of IBM's requirements > and say to the Blue Shirt, "Sell me one of these.") > > >But the ISV products for which we have no choice have always been > >problematic. > Without any "feel" for Unix, we would rather have root canal that go through > the > aggravation of installing a product where every step of the way is completely > foreign to us. > Not to mention, frequently poorly documented and loaded with assumptions that > a real > Unix user would probably find obvious. > > > "O, Brave New World..." How traumatic was your accommodation to > 31-bit addressing? Not a single one of our products or tools had to be modified for 31-bit addressing (ditto for 64-bit). They are still used by the customers in 24-bit mode. We did eventually modify one tool to operate in 31-bit mode to increase the size of a GETMAIN used to build an internal table. But that was a design tradeoff rather than rework the product to place the table in a temporary dataset. >But does IBM document packaging requirements > for ISVs? Publication number? Do you mean "Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products," SC23-3695-10? > >Mounting cartridges to install a driver system with the stand-alone ICKDSF > >and > ADRDSSU and using that to install ServerPac has always been infinitely > easier. Ditto for > receiving maintenance. > > > Yah. How would one build a driver system from DVD? Linux for Intel? I slip > the > DVD into the slot and click a few times. John Eells answered this in his Customized Offerings Driver message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
