On Tue, 12 May 2015 11:33:45 -0700, retired mainframer wrote:
>
>    ...  We could disable the OMVS and ISHELL TSO commands and no one would 
> notice.  
>
Might they still use Rexx "address SYSCALLL ..."?

>There is no user data in any of our HFS/ZFS datasets.
>
Unless they put it there.

>If we could go from DVD directly to SMPPTFIN and SMPHOLD, ...
>
What about RELFILEs?

>using DVDs would be more attractive.  ...
>
Where would you mount the DVDs?  IBM needs to address this.  If IBM says,
"Desktop system,"  IBM better make such a system available, even if only
through independent vendors, but with requirements rigorously specified.
(I should be able to go into Best Buy with a printout of IBM's requirements
and say to the Blue Shirt, "Sell me one of these.")

>But the ISV products for which we have no choice have always been problematic. 
> Without any "feel" for Unix, we would rather have root canal that go through 
>the aggravation of installing a product where every step of the way is 
>completely foreign to us.  Not to mention, frequently poorly documented and 
>loaded with assumptions that a real Unix user would probably find obvious.
>
"O, Brave New World..."  How traumatic was your accommodation to
31-bit addressing?  But does IBM document packaging requirements
for ISVs?  Publication number?

>Mounting cartridges to install a driver system with the stand-alone ICKDSF and 
>ADRDSSU and using that to install ServerPac has always been infinitely easier. 
> Ditto for receiving maintenance.
>
Yah.  How would one build a driver system from DVD?  Linux for Intel?  I slip 
the
DVD into the slot and click a few times.

-- gil

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