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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on 
call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

I certainly dislike what the bank did. I am ignorant: is a severance package 
legally required? Hum, that probably varies. If the employment contract does 
not require that a severance be paid, then the company can require anything 
(legal) in order to qualify for it. IIRC, at one time our company had something 
similar. You wouldn't get a lump sum, but you would continue to get a 
fortnightly (2 week) pay check, with no deductions other than taxes for (up to) 
6 months. While receiving this pay out, you could still be called to answer 
questions. I.e. you couldn't log onto the company's systems or need to "come 
it". But you did need to be "reasonably"
available for phone contact. If you refused, you're payout would stop. So it 
really wasn't "severance", per se, more like a "retainer".

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
[email protected]> wrote:

> Ed Gould wrote:
>
>
> http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/banks-severance-deal-indebts-laid-off-
> it-workers-to-be-on-call-for-2-years-of-tech-support-without-pay/
>
> WTF! Grrrr! Those crappies are too cheap to support their employees! 
> That bank wants to have its bread buttered on both sides.
>
> If you drop me, I drop you. Simple. My new employer wants my full 
> attention and if needed 24 hours be on standby. Goodbye ex-employer.
>
> If my ex-employer wants my work, they need to setup a contract with pay.
> Treat me like a consultant with full [hourly] pay, not like a 
> cheap/free slave.
>
> I will surely challenge that "no-pay work after being dismissed" clause.
> (BTW, I think our land's somewhat militant unions will go very badly 
> mad about this...)
>
> And of course move my money to another bank.
>
> Even when I'm retired, I still want to be paid for any work to any 
> ex-employer.
>
> PS: You think I'm ranting for fun? Read this disgusting story about a 
> doctor being misused for 8 years:
>
>
> http://www.health24.com/Lifestyle/Healthy-you/Slave-doctor-in-SA-worki
> ng-for-free-for-8-years-20151020
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
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