I've never heard that a severance package is required by law in the US, 
although it would likely be a state issue rather than Federal. From war stories 
I've encountered I'd say almost certainly not. Large responsible companies 
usually offer something. Terms vary, but it's designed to keep torch carrying 
peasants from storming the castle.

The chutzpa of Sun Trust appears to be mind-boggling. If the package is paid up 
front in a lump sum (usual practice), then let a judge decide whether the 
company has the right to demand labor from a person no longer employed. If the 
package is paid out gradually over time, then it looks more like a retainer and 
could be subject to termination for non-compliance. Sigh.

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Southern California Edison Company
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SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Steve Beaver
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers 
to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

I am ignorant: is a severance package legally required? Depends and it is 
NEGOCIABLE 

Otherwise its Pay-to-Stay 


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Of Chris Hoelscher
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:03 AM
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on 
call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

Wow - a bank lets staff go - and then expects on-call answers? And the bank 
expects "truthful" answers?  And even if the "answers" are provided in good 
faith, but in the end turn out not the best advice, what happens then? 
Personally - if I let someone go - I would want to be done with them ; not rely 
on them at all'

Chris Hoelscher
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John McKown
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers 
to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

I certainly dislike what the bank did. I am ignorant: is a severance package 
legally required? Hum, that probably varies. If the employment contract does 
not require that a severance be paid, then the company can require anything 
(legal) in order to qualify for it. IIRC, at one time our company had something 
similar. You wouldn't get a lump sum, but you would continue to get a 
fortnightly (2 week) pay check, with no deductions other than taxes for (up to) 
6 months. While receiving this pay out, you could still be called to answer 
questions. I.e. you couldn't log onto the company's systems or need to "come 
it". But you did need to be "reasonably"
available for phone contact. If you refused, you're payout would stop. So it 
really wasn't "severance", per se, more like a "retainer".

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht < 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:

> Ed Gould wrote:
>
>
> http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/banks-severance-deal-indebts-laid-off-
> it-workers-to-be-on-call-for-2-years-of-tech-support-without-pay/
>
> WTF! Grrrr! Those crappies are too cheap to support their employees! 
> That bank wants to have its bread buttered on both sides.
>
> If you drop me, I drop you. Simple. My new employer wants my full 
> attention and if needed 24 hours be on standby. Goodbye ex-employer.
>
> If my ex-employer wants my work, they need to setup a contract with pay.
> Treat me like a consultant with full [hourly] pay, not like a 
> cheap/free slave.
>
> I will surely challenge that "no-pay work after being dismissed" clause.
> (BTW, I think our land's somewhat militant unions will go very badly 
> mad about this...)
>
> And of course move my money to another bank.
>
> Even when I'm retired, I still want to be paid for any work to any 
> ex-employer.
>
> PS: You think I'm ranting for fun? Read this disgusting story about a 
> doctor being misused for 8 years:
>
>
> http://www.health24.com/Lifestyle/Healthy-you/Slave-doctor-in-SA-worki
> ng-for-free-for-8-years-20151020
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
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