W dniu 2016-09-05 o 22:58, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On 2016-09-05, at 14:01, R.S. wrote:

My €0.02: It would be good idea to enhance ftp protocol, to use something like 
GIMFAF.XML file.
It is used by SMP/E Internet Delivery, every file or dataset is accompanied 
with XML description stored in GIMFAF.XML file.

In such scenarion every file transfer from "structured world" (MVS, VM) to "flat 
file world" (unix, windows) would give two files: the file itself and metadata. And of course 
the metadata would be automatically applied during transfer the opposite direction.
It's pretty good.  Opportunities for improvement:

o There's no all-embracing archive convention.  Rather, the GIMPAF file
   directs downloading individual archive files from a server.  (Unless
   RECEIVE ORDER improves on this).

Note: GIMPAF <> GIMFAF


o It's biased toward unloaded PDSes.

No, it isn't!
It can describe virtually all dataset types, including VSAM. Ok, maybe excluding contructs requiring DataClass use.



o In fact, UNIX files are loaded into PDSes, then unloaded by IEBCOPY
   RECEIVE reloads the PDSes, then APPLY copies members to UNIX directories.
   Pretty roundabout.  Are exended attributes kept in the GIMFAF metadata?
   No, the metadata describes only the PDS RELFILE; metadata for individual
   files must be yet elsewhere, perhaps in the SMPMCS.

   (You can tell I've never worked with a UNIX product packaged for SMP/E)

Hmm... No. unix files are stored "natively", not in PDS members. Note: I mean GIMFAF, not SMP/E conventions.


o SMP/E or at least GIMUNZIP is a prerequisite for receiving.

Currently yes, but it was rather generic idea to use metadata in associated files, GIMFAF was just an example of the implementation.


How about going the other way: a "pax -z" archive containing simple UNIX
files (pax keeps metadata in more files) plus Classic data sets flattened
with AMATERSE or TRANSMIT.

I can't imagine it as a extension to FTP.


Regards
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland






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