We're not looking to save money on these products. Any savings would be in not having to run a separate z/OS CEC to support them. We also don't want to spend a whole lot more in a capped LPAR on a larger CEC.
For ten years we've run a 'Mutt and Jeff' configuration: one large data host and one very small penalty box. In our next upgrade, we'd like to turn the penalty box into a CF-only machine and run all z/OS LPARs on the larger box. It's the products I named that will do exactly the same work as currently but in a capped LPAR. BTW I learned at SHARE that ISVs are in the process of signing on to SCRT with IBM's full support. Most customers like this idea. One way to report s/w usage to all vendors. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Porowski, Kenneth Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 2:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: (External):Re: Moving to capped LPARs I have found that most (but not all) vendors will do some type of sub-capacity licensing. I haven't found any yet that do monthly usage based upon SCRT reports. For a MIPS based license I've had luck with a max 4HA usage for the year with overage true up at year end. Certain products can have a usage metric applied. Concurrent users, number of printers, number of jobs submitted, etc. Don't expect low dollar products to have sub-capacity. And of course whenever you change your licensing don't expect the price to go down from your current metric. The vendor wants to preserve their incoming cash so moving from a full box MIPS license to a sub-capacity MIPS or usage based license your overall price will not drastically go down (unless you really fight for it). This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. or its subsidiaries or affiliates (collectively, “CIT”), and are intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, any use, disclosure, printing, copying or distribution, or reliance on the contents, of this communication is strictly prohibited. CIT disclaims any liability for the review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or the taking of any action in reliance upon, this communication by persons other than the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication in error, please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission, and immediately delete and destroy the communication and any accompanying materials. To the extent permitted by applicable law, CIT and others may inspect, review, monitor, analyze, copy, record and retain any communications sent from or received at this email address. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 3:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Moving to capped LPARs We'd like to move a few ISV products from a small CEC to a larger CEC with capped LPARs. The capped LPARs would be no larger than the small-CEC LPARs they're in now. The question is whether anyone has experience in this sort of move. In particular, would these vendors likely agree to such a move? The list includes LRS (VPS and DRS) System Ware (JHS) BMC (CONTROL-D/V) CA (TPX) Of course we are contacting the vendors directly. Just want a feel for others' experience. We've never done this before. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office <===== NEW [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
