Thanks, I need to see if I can look at the SADMP source code. I know how CCW's work for a 3270 unit at IPL time, but it would be interesting to see if a totally different method is used when CONSOLE=SYSC is coded.

And I need to correct myself: I looked at my old SA ICKDSF notes and the console address needs to be coded in the loadparm, such as CNSLxxxx - so messages appear immediately with no interrupt needed.

On 10/9/2018 11:52 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
TN3270 is a different animal from HMC, whether line mode or 3270 mode. TN3270 
to an ICC looks like a local non-SNA 3270.


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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ZZSA question

I just tested ZZSA under Hercules and like I thought, when you connect
via Hercules TN3270 to simulate a console, after IPL no ZZSA messages
appear until you press Enter.  That means ZZSA sits waiting for an
interrupt from a 3270 device, and uses that device for the rest of the
communication.  To me, that means it works just like SADUMP, DFDSS, and
ICKDSF and there is no console configuration.

On 10/5/2018 8:20 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:
I've tested ZZSA under Hercules - Thanks to Sam Golob's fine work - but I 
didn't see how to define a console as an HMC integretated console (hmcs) ?

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Oh... you mean HMC console.  New answer:  I did not try that, but prior to 
going to that site I had never user ZZSA before so I tested it under Hercules, 
and that simulates the HMC console I believe, so I'd bet the answer is yes.

On 10/5/2018 8:07 AM, Tom Brennan wrote:
I used (well mostly watched) ZZSA work via ICC with no problems.  That
was a couple of years ago on a new z13s with OSA 5S cards.

On 10/5/2018 4:58 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:
Does anyone know if the ZZSA tool (stand alone utilities) on the
CBTTape can use the HMC Integrated Console?

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