I believe that the interface to the HMC, whether line mode or 3270, is a Diagnose instruction, and that the HMC 3270 interface uses a standard 3270 data stream.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of Tom Brennan <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 4:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ZZSA question Thanks, I need to see if I can look at the SADMP source code. I know how CCW's work for a 3270 unit at IPL time, but it would be interesting to see if a totally different method is used when CONSOLE=SYSC is coded. And I need to correct myself: I looked at my old SA ICKDSF notes and the console address needs to be coded in the loadparm, such as CNSLxxxx - so messages appear immediately with no interrupt needed. On 10/9/2018 11:52 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: > TN3270 is a different animal from HMC, whether line mode or 3270 mode. TN3270 > to an ICC looks like a local non-SNA 3270. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of > Tom Brennan <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 5, 2018 11:52 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ZZSA question > > I just tested ZZSA under Hercules and like I thought, when you connect > via Hercules TN3270 to simulate a console, after IPL no ZZSA messages > appear until you press Enter. That means ZZSA sits waiting for an > interrupt from a 3270 device, and uses that device for the rest of the > communication. To me, that means it works just like SADUMP, DFDSS, and > ICKDSF and there is no console configuration. > > On 10/5/2018 8:20 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote: >> I've tested ZZSA under Hercules - Thanks to Sam Golob's fine work - but I >> didn't see how to define a console as an HMC integretated console (hmcs) ? >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg>< >> Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Tom Brennan >> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:14 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: ZZSA question >> >> Oh... you mean HMC console. New answer: I did not try that, but prior to >> going to that site I had never user ZZSA before so I tested it under >> Hercules, and that simulates the HMC console I believe, so I'd bet the >> answer is yes. >> >> On 10/5/2018 8:07 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: >>> I used (well mostly watched) ZZSA work via ICC with no problems. That >>> was a couple of years ago on a new z13s with OSA 5S cards. >>> >>> On 10/5/2018 4:58 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote: >>>> Does anyone know if the ZZSA tool (stand alone utilities) on the >>>> CBTTape can use the HMC Integrated Console? >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg>< >>>> Mainframe Systems Programmer - RavenTek Solution Partners >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>>> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO >>>> IBM-MAIN >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >>> email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email >> to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
