where are the forum monitors when you need them, I have nothing positive or 
negative to add the this run out thread, ok - NO ONE is 100% secure, is the 
IBM-MAIN or FACEBOOK - 
lets move this on PLEASE ! 



Carmen Vitullo 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bill Johnson" <00000047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 10:45:31 AM 
Subject: Re: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls 

You have posted more to this thread than anyone else. 
False 
You have claimed that security is the main reason people stay on the 
mainframe, and posted a few articles that do not say what you claimed 
they say. 
False, they all stated flatly security was a top 3 reason for staying on the 
platform. 
You have insisted several times that your MVS systems have never been 
hacked without providing any evidence or serious reasoning as to how 
you could know that. "40 years of experience" is not evidence. It's called 
appeal to authority, and it is a logical fallacy. 
Proving something that did not happen is simply impossible. YOU prove it did 
since you claim it has. 
When your assertions are questioned, your response is to attack those 
who question you rather than provide evidence. Another logical fallacy. 
I have been attacked numerous times. 

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On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:45 AM, Tom Marchant 
<0000000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: 

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:01:01 +0000, Bill Johnson wrote: 

>noise and plenty of it. 

PKB. 

You have posted more to this thread than anyone else. 

You have claimed that security is the main reason people stay on the 
mainframe, and posted a few articles that do not say what you claimed 
they say. 

You have insisted several times that your MVS systems have never been 
hacked without providing any evidence or serious reasoning as to how 
you could know that. "40 years of experience" is not evidence. It's called 
appeal to authority, and it is a logical fallacy. 

When your assertions are questioned, your response is to attack those 
who question you rather than provide evidence. Another logical fallacy. 

-- 
Tom Marchant 

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