Well, it's important to replace all of that COBOL code using a language like C 
that came out this decade. Oh, wait, it didn't. <dws>

But didn't Multics have B1 before MVS did?

Reading the transcript I would have to assume that either the government is in 
the process of upgrading its 360/65 fleet to ES/9000 or that the author is 
inventing hisfacts out of the whole cloth. Tom was too kind.


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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Subject: Re: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

>From the you can’t make this up department. Mr. Marchant agrees with me.

https://secure-web.cisco.com/1yL63m40iBCeQbG1WvmNZsrKa4FxGrXYc1ASKMXpNVzdwtqEkgBeRY3ZdRhqcYpE8x1EGH2oYCOAOaZ2bO_7UCfP3tVCijeenqLOIOeq4mRO5gAjMFyrW655_OndDRRXv6odsUjGx8U63qP3bZTyag1OE4FZs-eJeOB23r82elSblLxXJiu2Fh_IHTw21XRKd28yHEMzSPfBuKtUVSiyFfuGeaGjvjHHoXDdIpUQDoKoNszOoMM3Ar533ngeRAZ6trUZxEHPPYiskU5HZF_GQqM-hEUDOJDMBGXFyLw3zKUGwb_hECp5TXhm7GT2n576H_0c98_THsaujOvUko7S4PpkfbD9ZkQaxNo4pf6l9gFUTkzD-Mx19UmKzIMfs0HAbM4gr_mr1K2Ay7i-N7A-BtF1h8JktxkkDKEIiQ4yaS7ooLyoQlRDwtipt90OA9DNHxHsFGI0ASBqXUhnRS_pB1g/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.compuware.com%2Fproving-z13-modern%2F



Talk of “modernization” of mainframe systems is often code for redesigning 
mainframe-based applications and implementing them to run on Windows, or less 
frequently, on Unix or Linux. None of these systems can match the security 
capabilities of modern mainframe operating systems.


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On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:45 AM, Tom Marchant 
<0000000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 00:01:01 +0000, Bill Johnson wrote:

>noise and plenty of it.

PKB.

You have posted more to this thread than anyone else.

You have claimed that security is the main reason people stay on the
mainframe, and posted a few articles that do not say what you claimed
they say.

You have insisted several times that your MVS systems have never been
hacked without providing any evidence or serious reasoning as to how
you could know that. "40 years of experience" is not evidence. It's called
appeal to authority, and it is a logical fallacy.

When your assertions are questioned, your response is to attack those
who question you rather than provide evidence. Another logical fallacy.

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Tom Marchant

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