Doug. The rigging (and engine) are key evals. Rigging keeps the mast up w compression all manner of forces. Most of what you listed is "expected" more or less. Blisters could be an issue depending on scope. You may want to sister in some addl keel bots and the rest of labor you'll need to invest is not insignificant and a pain such as leaking ports or windows. Roller furling us a big plus if not racing and that's $1.5k or so. Running rigging not cheap either. Do it up right. Bottom line - wait for balance of survey and DO negotiate it down. Walk if you need to. Price of survey is worth every penny if done well and it sounds good. Don't forget to ask for moisture readings that a good surveyor will do for deck, rudder etc. I know you want a boat and seller knows it too. Hang tough. You've got a lot of "work" ahead of you. Assess your willingness to invest the time and think about if you want to be sailing or working on boat. Perhaps there will be another better suited to your pref. I love my c27 and you will too. Just keep it real and maintain some distance and perspective.
Don 1981 #4855 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2010, at 11:06, "Doug" <[email protected]> wrote: > Well we had the survey yesterday which I was present for and lasted > all day. The boat was hauled and the bottom was inspected. Still > waiting for the service guy to evaluate the engine. I don't yet have > the write up > Findings so far (most I knew about) are; > 1. Very neglected 1-2 yrs, spider webs, mud dauber nests, water in > bilge, etc > 2. Keel bolts are SS but nut are steel and are very deteriorated > 3. Mainsail very dirty, stained in fair condition > 4. !50, 110 hank on sails very good condition (5-6 yrs old) > 5. Sail cover shredded, non usable > 6. All ports leaking > 7. Lifelines in good condition > 8. Electronics non working (wind speed, direction, depth, boat speed) > 9. Dead Batteries but battery charger good > 10. All electrical systems work > 11. Bottom looks ok ('normal' amount of blisters?) Keel straight, > minimal slop in rudder, cutlass bearing ok > 12. Most lines needs updating. > 13. rigging-I had to leave so have to wait till I get the survey > paper. > 14. waste tank ok but the hoses need redoing. > 15. water tank- ok > 16. Fuel tank ok but needs new filler hose. There appears to be no > fuel filter in line to engine. > > If the engine evaluation comes back ok, good compression, etc then I > am still very interested. > This boat was listed for $9750.00 and I offered 5k contingent upon > survey. The surveyor siad he would probably value it less maybe 3k. > Do you think I should re-negotiate less? > > Doug > > --- In [email protected], "dj2210" <dj2...@...> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > I just wanted to introduce myself. I have a deposit on a 1982 C27 > standard rig. This Friday we will haul and survey so maybe will own > it this weekend. She will be sailed in east TN after I do whatever > needs doing. The first thing will be the port bulkhead due to rot at > the chain plate. (Finding some marine ply might be a problem) This > boat looks ok but has not been sailed for at least a year so needs a > lot of attention. New running lines, new cushions, sealing the > ports, etc, you get the idea. It has an A4 that has not been started > for some time. I will probably have questions as we come across > problem areas but this site and links has so far given me a wealth > of info. > > Thanks > > Doug > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
