Joe Ralph's solution is a good one, but one caveat - the single braid is a looser construction than the cover on a double braid. I tried to swap out double braid sheets for salsa single braid (higher tech material - yes, I do race), and it handled great, except that the individual strands had a tendency to catch and pull on the self tailin 'foot' that peels the line out of the jammer. Much harder to clear than the hockle at the block.
Went back to simple (non high tech) double braid, which three or four times a year we just stream out behind the boat to relax. Peter Z Snagglepuss #2622 --- In [email protected], j...@... wrote: > > Thanks, I don't race but I am not sure if I can emotionally handle giving up > 0.6% efficiency ;-) I will look into single braid soon! Thanks > Joe McCary > Aeolus II > West River, MD > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Ralph Ahseln" <rahs...@...> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:02:53 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Mainsail travel > > (SNIP) > > >>From: Joe McCary > >>. does anyone have a suggestion on how to keep the genoa sheets from > >>twisting when they are run through a ST winch? Joe McCary > >>Aeolus II. #4795, West River, MD > > > Joe, > > I'll take this on, if no one else will.. LOL > > It sounds like the line is twisted against the lay of the fibers. That > creates a HOCKLE. > IMHO, there's not much you can do to avoid the problem .. That is, with the > line you're using. > I'm guessing that you're using the ubiquitous STA-SET, or similar line. > > I'm not aware that you've said that you Raced ? If, NO, then I'd think about > using a different type of line for your Sheets. > > I got rid of the HOCKLE problem for good by using a Non-Hockle line. > Racers and those who worry about obtaining Top efficiency will probably > shudder, but, I replaced all my Jib/Genny sheets with.. > "Gasp".... REGATTA Single Braid.. line. > I've used it for years and will Never go back to Sta-set, et al. > Racers and those who love to be "efficient" hate me for saying it, but I Love > Regatta Braid !! > > REGATTA Braid.. (recommended by Practical Sailor) > Has a bit more stretch 3 % at 15 of Breaking. As opposed to Sta-set at 2.4 % > (Sta-set X, 1.6 %) > But in our smallish boats and when cruising, Regatta performs just fine > Here's my take on the Good, Bad and the Ugly of Regatta Braid > > Good: NO hockles, Soft on hands, Grabs a winch drum securely, runs freely, > a little cheaper than most, wraps up and stores easily. > Bad: It sucks up water like a sponge (dries quickly though), a bit more > stretch, chafes easier than Sta-set type line. > Ugly: It gets dirty easily (washes well, try Oxy-clean). > > If you have a problem with Hockles, change out to Regatta Braid line.. > > Uniform Whisky, > Ralph Ahseln > "Oblio" > Lying: Portland OR > > > > > From: Joe McCary > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [IC27A] Mainsail travel > > > > > Along these lines. does anyone have a suggestion on how to keep the genoa > sheets from twisting when they are run through a ST winch? I just this > summer added a pair of Lewmar 30ST winches and they are wonderful except that > after you crank in the sheets and then release by lifting the sheets off the > drum they twist themselves into a small loop/knot as they try to pass through > the sheet car on the rail. > > > > I am open to suggestions on how to stop this. > > > > Joe McCary > Aeolus II. #4795, West River, MD > www.aeoluswestriver.net > joe at photoresponse dot com > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John > Harker > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: lew staub > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Mainsail travel > > > > > > If you find your mainsheet lines twisting (other forces tend to cause this to > happen), be aware there is a small set-screw in the blocks that can be set > where the problem is to keep them from rotating, helps in this case.... > > John Harker C27 Prana #6261 Santa Cruz > > On 7/12/2010 2:38 PM, lew staub wrote: > > > > Make sure that the mainsheet lines are not twisted against each > other. If they are, friction can keep them from running through the blocks. > > Lew > > --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Mark Robertson <mrobert...@...> wrote: > > > From: Mark Robertson <mrobert...@...> > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Mainsail travel > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:23 PM > > I have the same problem on my 81 standard rig. I think it is that > mt traveler lines are either too large for the blocks or the line has lost > flexibility so it does not run free. I am going to downsize the mainsheet > line one size and see if that helps. Could be that the blocks need > lubrication also. I am going to start with the cheapest fix and move my way > up. > > >>> "dennisv1030" <dennisv1...@...> 7/12/2010 3:16 PM >>> > > > Fellow 27C Owners, > I have a 1986 27TR. I just moved up from a O'Day 25 C/B. Love the > Catalina. Amasing the difference in 2 feet. Question. On the O'Day if I > released the mainsheet the mainsail would swing freely to almost 80-to-90 > degrees off center. Whenever I got in a blow, just release the mail and dump > the wind. > > On my 27C I release the mainsail and the boom will travel 5-to-10 > degrees off center. That's OK if 5-to-10 degree adjustment is what I wanted. > To get anything more I have to slack the mainsheet (lines run aft), leave the > helm, and phyically push the boom out. If I ever have to "dump the main" > forget it. It won't swing freely. Help!!!! How can I get the main to release > quickly and freely? > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5273 (20100712)__________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5273 (20100712)__________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com >
