On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Michael StJohns <[email protected]>wrote:
> I've been watching this with interest. I'm especially in agreement with > Leslie's comments about chair load. > > Because of the legal issues with respect to the IETF trust and the > implementing documents for the IAOC, its going to be pretty difficult to > come up with a way to remove some of the responsibilities from the Chairs > (meeting attendance, voting, etc) without also removing the authority. > > We're arguing somewhat in circles. > > I agree with Bob's comments below that the leadership of the IESG and the > IAB need to be involved in the operation of the IAOC, but I no longer think > there are enough hours in the day for the IETF and IAB chairs to be able to > do everything they need to do. > > I hesitate to suggest this, but its probably time: > > Let's add a position to the IESG - Executive Vice-Chair or Co-Adjutor > Chair. Basically, either the chair's personal representative (Executive > Vice-Chair) or their replacement in waiting (Co-Adjutor Chair). > > Have the IAB select a vice-chair when they select the chair. > > Modify the various documents to describe the various responsibilities for > the Vice-chairs - suggestions for the IETF co-chair would be to stick > him/her with the IAOC, the Trust and at least half of the Administrivia.. > For the IAB - ditto plus liaison and appeals. > > Modify the IAOC documents to permit either of the two co-chairs to be > designated for a year at a time as IAOC members by the respective chairs > choice (but can't be pulled off once on). No modificiations to the Trust > legal document, but probably modify the administrative document to require > the chair and co-chair for the IAB and IETF be invited to all non-closed > meetings. > > Job description to the Nomcom - for the IETF, the co-chair is a > chair-in-training with the expectation they may make a decent Chair when and > if the time comes. Maybe rotate that job every two years regardless to > ensure a couple of people with some of the chair experience are in the pool. > Maybe even every year. > > I have suggested this verbally several times, and so would support it, but each time it has gotten shot down as "not the IETF/IESG/IAB way." Regards Marshall > Mike > > > > At 10:27 AM 9/21/2011, Bob Hinden wrote: > >>> I think it's very important for the I* chairs to share the > responsibility for IAOC decisions by being voting members. > >> > >> Why? > > > > > >So we don't have the IESG and IAB having disputes with the IAOC. Having > the IETF and IAB chairs share the decisions avoids a lot of this. I think > you are aware of a few times where we got close to this and I think the > current structure helped avoid it. > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >
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