On Jun 19, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Doug Barton <do...@dougbarton.us>
 wrote:
>> 
>> On 19/06/13 18:33, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>>> 
>>> Academia is still one of the worst environments for discrimination.
>>> They don't have formal barriers as in the past but the informal
>>> barriers are steep.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Relating to the statement above(I assume Phillip is addressing the US
>> Academia), not quite sure are we still discussing the same topic? sorry,
>> I am bit confused ..  since IETF is an international organization.
> 
> We can point to all kinds of examples that are outside the IETF of where 
> various biases exist. It's not at all clear that the existence of those 
> problems elsewhere corresponds to any actual problem within our organization.

Looking at how similar problems were solved in other places could help us 
figure out how to solve such problems in the IETF.

And Academia is much more similar to the IETF than is the state of Alabama.

Yoav

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