Hi everybody,

I agree I do not have much background information on whats been happening in 
ilug-cal earlier. so its been sort of an awakening for us new members. But I 
would still like to point out a few issues which I feel are very important 
if ilug-cal has to expand as a group.

Indra wrote:
>1> After reading Prateek's descp abt LMB setup I felt that it does >not 
>have the technical capability to accomplish converting the 286s' >into 
>Terminals, even if they are provided with a some amt of >guidance & 
>hand-holding� (in form of seminars + workshop format)

I have mentioned earlier also that overchampioning of linux is dangerous for 
linux. their are graphical browsers available which work on dos (286, 386 
incl) instead of making them terminals it would be better if instead they 
are used this way. the issue we are discussing here is the rage in the west 
too where schools are having a much tougher time.

>2> As a point of interest, how do you define the range & extent of >"some 
>free technical inputs"... if it means setting up/configuring >one/two 
>machines or setting aside 4/5 hours each week for this, I >would gladly put 
>it in along with the rest of the guys volunteering >- absolutely free!

free need not be absolutely free. however I agree that sometimes it might 
mean a little to much of a load.

>3> When I mentioned "very nominal fees" I meant exactly that.... 
> >Educational institutions are not my target clientele... particularly >the 
>schools, they simply can't afford me ;-) After recovering my >conveyance 
>expenses, I would have liked to donate the rest of >whatever amount I may 
>recieved from them to the ILUG-Cal funds. It >*wouldn't* have been the 
>first time I would have done such a >thing.... see the archives for 
>that....

This is something I do object to. The ilug as a group should act as the 
consultant, this way the group will feel ownership of the project. As for 
the schools not being able to afford you. I am sure they can afford the 
ilug. funds generation is a big issue. and what better way than by helping 
schools /instis which need it. I am sure others would agree that we need to 
help indra in generating funds. he is already contributed quite a bit.

>There are certain facts I had *never* bothered to talk about, both >on list 
>and off it -- during LI - '99 approx Rs. 3,500/- had been >spent out of my 
>own pocket in activities directly related to it. >Despite that I had 
>donated over 1.5K worth of CDs to the LUG, which >was not really a profit 
>as I had much spent more than I had earned >through the sale of CDs from GT 
>Enterprises. This is only just one >instance of such spending.

I hope we contribute enough so that one person does not have to contribute 
so heavily again. I agree indra feels a lot about this group because he 
started it, but if it has to flourish than others have to contribute. If the 
previous trend continues than even linus cant help it.

>Therefore, my offer to Prateek still stands. However if the members >do 
>find my earlier post inappropriate as you seem to have, I will >withdraw it 
>  and shall prefrain from making any such offers in >future.

I apologize if my email caused any misunderstanding. However, I emphasize 
once again the need to represent "ilug" in a slightly different fashion. A 
start could be this collective effort.

ciao
alok
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