I HAVE to respond .. been DIRECTLY addressed ! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Points to ponder -- Re: [ilug-cal] BluePrint
> Ask old MUC members here -- PK & RK... what is the status of MUC (Microcomputer Users Club of Calcutta) today.... DON'T ! JUST DON'T !! don't ask for trouble ;-) ! > till the last time I knew (couple of years back)... > MUC had a *HUGE* bank balance (admit its entirely hearsay evidence ;-)... just fyi : i am an ex-president of MUC .. so i'll just ignore this friendly jab ;-D ... > but it was not being able to organise any events MUC organised the 1st 4/5 MicroFairs this city which we are here just beginnig to try to 'participate' in > are they didn't focus on effective second-level leadership, wow ! even "I" didn't KNOW THIS ! > maybe one of the reasons cud be hmm .. 'maybe' is well worded .. > that the time for the technical niche > (i.e centered around Microcomputers) > it catered to had stopped being the epicenter > of the technological focus & hence interest. goodness gracious ! all things other than mainframes are MicroComputers (PC's, Palmtops, PDA's, Minis, SuperMinis, PalmPilots, HpLx's, Sinclairs, Visors, Newtons, Apples, Sparc, Sun, Servers, MPC's, and even convergence items like cellphones of the NokiaCommunicator Version9000 911x, 921x, digital cameras, mp3 players, dvd players, etc .. its a very wide term !) .. They have been, still are, and also will BE the 'epicenter' SO ! may i, in all humilty, and with the deference due to the 'owner' and an old 'founder' member of this group, suggest : ask ! and know ! .. don't presume .. and deduce .. and certainly not think that 'focus' & 'interest' have 'stopped' .. far from it .. far from it .. that group uses, talks, discusses, disects, analyses, evaluates, criticises and comments on a range of products, programs, operating systems which span almost the entire range of computing devices .. apart from mainframes .. which, i believe, were a very important part of the 'wholistic' approach of CSI .. mainframe vendors .. CSI fairs were BIG .. but MicroFairs were very very informative .. all kinds of segments were represented there .. not by accident, but by intentional design ! > I do know that some of the MUC oldtimers and > stalwarts still continue to meet.at Tapan-da's office from time to time. i'll leave this presumption uncommented .. dunno what you are trying to imply. > I have been sitting down and analysing why some Organisations have worked and some haven't. CSI (Computer Society of India) has worked long, hard and successfully as a Registered Society as it has a wholistic focus. Organisations like MUC and LUGs are much more narrowly focussed in their approach and long-term appeal to the peeple.... hmm.. each to his own .. conclusion ! its best to agree to differ .. but it would be nice to know views .. across the board .. why some Org's didn't work .. so that this .org can avoid THOSE mistakes. > The mails on the list has shown an interesting and positive trend... the group is finally maturing in terms of > participation and interaction... THIS does need to be understood and analysed .. how this group sprung into action from slumber .. so that we can keep doing the 'right' things ! > its becoming much more than a helpline for people in trouble... and that *IS* the way to go! repeating request to 'delegate' .. let there be the web site to enable us to 'go' on "that .. way to go" .. please ! as 'owner' only can 'allow' and 'delegate' .. please do ! > IMHO I don't think we are ready yet to be a Registered Society... this is abs correct .. its too many formalities with too few wanting to shoulder them. > right now when we are going all guns blazing for COMPASS & BookFair, my feeling .. based on the mountain of work needed for hosting a computer expo.. i am yet to see and 'guns blazing' .. we're just on the expression of intent stage .. a few blue prints .. a common consensus (one or both or more and/or workshops, demos, seminars...) .. and a few volunteers .. no 'formal' co-ordinators .. no 'in-charges' .. no committees yet .. no time frames .. no dates .. no meetings of the 'fair' committee .. we have a loooong way to go to make this happen yet ! > IMHO trying everything at the same time we cud end up losing focus. yep .. correct ! > Let us go ahead and get these events thru successful, and so let us all do that which needs to be done for this success. > then maybe we can start thinking abt being a Registered Society. let's just chuck this idea .. its too daunting a task for this fledgeling group to shoulder .. we're better with the loose matrix format .. and the open source setup .. no commitments .. do what one wants .. when one wants .. with no one to be answerable to anyone else .. > Let us first walk firmly before we begin to run a marathon... allow me to modify this a bit .. walk in step .. in sync ! > coz a registered society is the beginning of a marathon.... its more like a three legged walk .. quite tough .. slows down .. maybe comes to a standstill if not tumble the tied up guys ! any one wanting to take up this formidable formality ? > Just my 2p at the moment... this is welcome .. more 2p's are welcome also .. keep these things coming .. so that we all feel happy and with each other .. an in sync ..pk -- To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe ilug-cal" and an empty subject line. 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