>> An ISP is like postal department - a mechanism to transfer data >>
same as you said.. . non-free mechanism, its not that much transparent, Data is also locked..well,you can find more and more elements there,, but the point of this topic is not digging out flaw backs of postal dept. But its true that every proprietary concern some drawback as in view of "freedom " and may be the score board varies... and my point was if you r fanatic about Freedom then try to stop all other proprietary services.. not only on tech-no world.. On other words, if u use proprietary services, you must admit its good sides too.. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Praveen A <[email protected]> wrote: > 2010/9/14 JeevZ <[email protected]>: > > can you elaborate the problem for using Google groups.??..and all > > Isn't that too simplistic a view? Google Groups runs on proprietary > software. And we don't get an easy way to move around our data if we > wish to chose another provider or our own providers. > > So the issues are, > > 1. non-free software, we can't run the same service on our servers (or > on some other server) if we want to. > 2. Data is locked on to a single provider. Well, this concern could be > mitigated to some extend by using other archiving providers. But we > cannot freely move data. > > Initially, we were interested to Free our personal systems only, and > hence GNU project and GNU/Linux. Now we realize we are ready to give > up much more of our privacy and freedoms for convenience of network > services. So we have started to develop Free network services. So in > that context, moving to a service running on Free Software would be a > step in the right direction. Like I said, we are still at the > beginning of this stage and we won't be able to liberate all our > services at one go. But efforts are on. See > http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox for more on this. > > > points you may point out will be applicable to these ISP services or > > even Hotel/restaurants or any proprietary services. > > but you already to made that its just the situational choice. > > Now I agree there is an issue with ISPs. But that is not the same as > that of google groups. Now can you explain what you think is the > problem with ISPs? An ISP is like postal department - a mechanism to > transfer data. > > -- > പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് > You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your > rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as > they follow the rules: laws and constitution. > > -- > "Freedom is the only law". > "Freedom Unplugged" > http://www.ilug-tvm.org > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "ilug-tvm" group. > To control your subscription visit > http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > > For details visit the google group page: > http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en > -- *ησямαℓιту ιѕ тнє υηινєяѕαℓ α¢¢єρтє∂ кιηк* Jeevachaithanyan Sivanandan CyberBeamS Technologies http://www.cyberbeams.com http://www.jeevanism.wordpress.com ph: +919995319639 -- "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
