On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Charles Davis wrote:

>
> Right!!   But there was never any effort at figuring out how to speed
> the migration of the Ozone from where it was a bother, to where it
> was (is) needed.

There's never been any serious effort towards making perpetual motion  
machines or flying by flapping our arms like birds, either.

It's physically and chemically impossible for it to work like that.

Only stable molecules will diffuse from the surface up to the  
stratosphere where the protective ozone is.*

That is akin to saying we could solve the problem of not enough water  
in the Sahara, by picking up icebergs with helicopters and dropping  
them in the desert.

Works for Wile E. Coyote (at least until the ACME rubber bands  
suspending the iceberg's break), but not in reality.

Ozone is too reactive to diffuse far, it does not migrate upwards, it  
reacts very quickly with just about anything it touches, including  
lung tissue, which it burns. This is also why conditions of high ozone  
that form naturally, such as during inversions, quickly dissipate once  
normal weather conditions return.

The ozone in the upper atmosphere is created there, by the action of  
UV on O2 molecules :

<http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/m2.html>

Ozone is used in a variety of processes on earth, like water  
sterilization and some chemical manufacturing processes. In all cases  
the ozone is not supplied by opening a tank of Ozone, but by the use  
of ozone generators, which work in analogous ways to the natural  
process, by irradiating oxygen with UV.

*Ironically, the chlorofluorocarbons that catalyze the ozone depletion  
are dangerous *due* to their general inertness and stability...this is  
why they were used for the reasons they were used; among other things  
this inertness made ideal propellants for aerosol cans, because  they  
didn't react with the contents, and their inertness also made them  
ideal for use in air conditioning systems: they didn't corrode the  
thin tubing, and repeated heating and cooling cycles didn't cause them  
to break down or form reactive chemicals.

But the thin atmosphere of the upper stratosphere coupled with the  
high flux of UV turned these molecules into ozone destroyers. The UV  
can knock a chlorine atom off the CFC molecule, which can then break  
down MANY ozone molecules, because the reaction tends to keep re- 
releasing the Cl atom.

<http://tinyurl.com/dbn7pl>

It took us a while to figure out where the chlorine was coming from,  
as noted in the link above, the 1995 Nobel Prize in chemistry went to  
the folks who figured it all out.

This is also why my asthma inhaler just went from $15 to $60. %...@$!#@  
mother-...@$6 pharmaceutical companies got to patent the use of a non- 
CFC propellant, so the drug is a generic, but the stuff to make it  
come out of the inhaler? Patented, and thus expensive as hell for a  
number of years.

Bastiges.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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