Thank you Matt, you have confirm my thoughts. From reading the forum, I
see there are still issues with web frontend piece. We do not want to go
through another upgrade only to downgrade. Like you said, it's a catch
22 as we really need to be at the latest version. We evaluated Zimbra as
a replacement system and liked it, but our director shot it down, saying
if we migrate off imail, it will be exchange. The state is an exchange
shop and K12 larger schools have their own exchange servers and we have
exchange servers on the core to distribute the mail internally. They are
currently working with the budget office (no money last year), in the
meantime I'm getting beat up. Hopefully, this summer we will be
installing exchange servers.

 

I checked my IMAP settings and they are OK. The contact database I will
visit. I was hoping the two errors may both be related to the database.
I do reboot the server on a scheduled task at 0600 each day. I also have
scheduled tasks to sync LDAP each night as we have multiple domains and
OpenLDAP does not work well either. Tends to get to 30 domains and bomb.
I worked with IpSwitch tech support on this probably a year ago.
Originally I was told there was no issue, than told they couldn't
duplicate, than they actually said they did duplicate it once they added
enough domains. I was told I was on a list and would be provided a fix
when it was resolved. I'm still waiting.

 

Email is just so important now, stability is a must. Ipswitch needs to
get cracking.

 

James W. Herron
Department of Technology and Information
801 Silver Lake Blvd.
Dover, De 19904
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(P) 302-739-9657
(F) 302-739-7243

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Several issues with mail access

 

Jim,

2006.21 has a webmail message parsing bug that will cause IIS to crash
(and kick off all users).  Before it finally crashes, it will frequently
redline a single core.  Restarting IIS once a day with a scheduled task
will help the instability, but it won't fix it.  Without restarts, the
server can hang until there is manual intervention.  This has been
reported repeatedly to Ipswitch and they have reproduced at least some
of the parsing errors that trigger this condition, however they have
offered nothing at all in terms of providing a fix, or even that they
are working on the issue.  This problem makes 2006.21 a bad choice for a
larger server with active webmail use, though smaller servers with less
webmail use will see this issue much less frequently.

I did not see these problems with 2006.1.  The problem with not running
the most recent version is that there are security issues that will
almost definitely be exploited just like most of the past bugs that can
give system privileges to an IMail attacker.  It's a Catch 22, either
have a stable server, or have one that can be hacked.  For larger
installations, there is no good solution.

To fix your 2006.1 issues, you need to migrate to MS SQL Express to
store your contacts in instead of using the default Access solution.
Search the list for documentation on how to do this.  You have too many
users for webmail to handle contacts with an Access database.  The IMAP
issue is less clear to me, but you want to make sure that the IMAP
service is not set to "force subscribe", otherwise users can't see their
sub-folders and other related issues.  2006.1 also will not work
appropriately with Safari.

The real fix is to demand that Ipswitch fix the problems that cause IIS
to crash.  They can do that without making users wait another 6 months
or so for an interim release like they did with 2006.21.  I would like
to see Ipswitch address this immediately.

Matt




Herron Jim W. (DTI) wrote: 

Hoping someone with more insight to IMail than I have could assist on my
earlier post below.

 

Thank you, Jim

 

James W. Herron
Department of Technology and Information
801 Silver Lake Blvd.
Dover, De 19904
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(P) 302-739-9657
(F) 302-739-7243

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herron Jim W.
(DTI)
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Several issues with mail access

 

We are running Imail 2006.03, the last stable version we had success
with. We have 8400+ users in 38 virtual domains, with probably 75% using
browsers for access. We skipped 2006.04 and went to 2006.1, just as we
finished testing 2006.2 came out. We upgraded from 2006.03 to 2006.2 and
it was a disaster. Ipswitch recommended downgrading to 2006.1 which we
never had in production, things were better but frontend still kept
crashing. We went back to 2006.03, we have not gone to 2006.21 yet, this
list forum had negative statements on browser access and the .net
errors, we pulled out again right at the last minute. I say these things
because I know ipswitch's answer is going to be upgrading to 2006.21.

 

We are experiencing two errors listed below, this is displayed on the
left panel of the browser, users cannot see their folders, just the
error message. Other panels display properly. Does anyone have any
insight to what is going on and/or recommendations for a fix. Another
product is not a solution for this year anyway. Got to get through
another year of IMail with possibilities of exchange next year.

 

When these errors happen, I've been rebuilding the workshare DB for the
one mentioning database (unknown). On the other restarting services or
the server works. CPU is running 30 to 100 percent at the time, with
more time on the 100% side. W3wp.exe is running 50+ % with IMAP4d32
running at another 30+ % and SMTPd32, POP3d32 and queue manager eating
the rest. The w3wp using over a GB of memory. 

 

Server is a Compaq G3 with Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz and 3 GB of
RAM. Windows 2003 server Standard Edition Service Pack 2.

 

 

First error, to do with the workshare database.

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Message:
ERROR [HY000] [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Cannot open
database '(unknown)'. It may not be a database that your application
recognizes, or the file may be corrupt. ERROR [IM006] [Microsoft][ODBC
Driver Manager] Driver's SQLSetConnectAttr failed ERROR [HY000]
[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Cannot open database
'(unknown)'. It may not be a database that your application recognizes,
or the file may be corrupt. 

StackTrace:
at System.Data.Odbc.OdbcConnection.Open() at
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.WgsContactSource..ctor(IUser user) at
Ipswitch.Web.Client.ContactTree.ProcessContactFolders(IUser user) at
Ipswitch.Web.Client.ContactTree.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) at
System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) at
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at
System.Web.UI.Control.AddedControl(Control control, Int32 index) at
System.Web.UI.ControlCollection.Add(Control child) at
Infragistics.WebUI.UltraWebListbar.UltraWebListbar.CreateChildControls()
at System.Web.UI.Control.EnsureChildControls() at
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()

Second error, Connection lost.

 

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previous page <javascript:history.go(-1)> )

If you encounter this error again, please provide the following
information to your network administrator to assist in trouble-shooting.

 

Message:

Connection dropped

 

StackTrace:

at Hunny.Mail.Socket.Underflow() at Hunny.Mail.Socket.Read() at
Hunny.Mail.Imap4Parser.Read(Socket socket) at
Hunny.Mail.Imap4Parser.ParseTag(Socket socket) at
Hunny.Mail.Imap4Parser.ParseOneResponse(Socket socket) at
Hunny.Mail.Imap4Client.Connect(String address, Int32 port) at
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Connection..ctor(IUser user) at
Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Folder.get_Count() at
Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolderList(ArrayList folders,
Nodes level) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolders(IUser
user) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.Page_Load(Object sender,
EventArgs e) at System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) at
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at
System.Web.UI.Control.AddedControl(Control control, Int32 index) at
System.Web.UI.ControlCollection.Add(Control child) at
Infragistics.WebUI.UltraWebListbar.UltraWebListbar.CreateChildControls()
at System.Web.UI.Control.EnsureChildControls() at
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()

 

 

Any help or insight is appreciated.

 

 

James W. Herron

Department of Technology and Information

801 Silver Lake Blvd.

Dover, De 19904

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(P) 302-739-9657

(F) 302-739-7243

 

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