have  a look at hmailserver (Its like a clone to Imail but wihtout the
troubbles - and it's free) - or if you need a collaboration suite, use
the Kerio Mailserver.

Matti

> I was also interested in Zimbra, due to their association with Red Hat, but
> now I am wondering how their acquisition by Yahoo will affect the product
> and pricing structure.  Although we are pretty much a Windows environment, I
> am somewhat apprehensive about managing an Exchange Server.  Can anyone
> comment on how difficult that is?

> Mark LeBlanc 
> Technology Director 
> Tri-County RVTHS 
> 147 Pond Street 
> Franklin, MA 02038 
> 508-528-5400 x219 
> ________________________________________
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:43 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Several issues with mail access

> Agreed.  If things don’t turn around I am will have lost my fight and will
> be forced to install Exchange as well.  I am losing my battle to keep Imail
> around, and frankly, I can’t blame my users and faculty/staff.

> Travis

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herron Jim W.
> (DTI)
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 7:38 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Several issues with mail access

> Thank you Matt, you have confirm my thoughts. From reading the forum, I see
> there are still issues with web frontend piece. We do not want to go through
> another upgrade only to downgrade. Like you said, it’s a catch 22 as we
> really need to be at the latest version. We evaluated Zimbra as a
> replacement system and liked it, but our director shot it down, saying if we
> migrate off imail, it will be exchange. The state is an exchange shop and
> K12 larger schools have their own exchange servers and we have exchange
> servers on the core to distribute the mail internally. They are currently
> working with the budget office (no money last year), in the meantime I’m
> getting beat up. Hopefully, this summer we will be installing exchange
> servers.

> I checked my IMAP settings and they are OK. The contact database I will
> visit. I was hoping the two errors may both be related to the database. I do
> reboot the server on a scheduled task at 0600 each day. I also have
> scheduled tasks to sync LDAP each night as we have multiple domains and
> OpenLDAP does not work well either. Tends to get to 30 domains and bomb. I
> worked with IpSwitch tech support on this probably a year ago. Originally I
> was told there was no issue, than told they couldn’t duplicate, than they
> actually said they did duplicate it once they added enough domains. I was
> told I was on a list and would be provided a fix when it was resolved. I’m
> still waiting.

> Email is just so important now, stability is a must. Ipswitch needs to get
> cracking.

> James W. Herron
> Department of Technology and Information
> 801 Silver Lake Blvd.
> Dover, De 19904
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (P) 302-739-9657
> (F) 302-739-7243
>  

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Several issues with mail access

> Jim,

> 2006.21 has a webmail message parsing bug that will cause IIS to crash (and
> kick off all users).  Before it finally crashes, it will frequently redline
> a single core.  Restarting IIS once a day with a scheduled task will help
> the instability, but it won't fix it.  Without restarts, the server can hang
> until there is manual intervention.  This has been reported repeatedly to
> Ipswitch and they have reproduced at least some of the parsing errors that
> trigger this condition, however they have offered nothing at all in terms of
> providing a fix, or even that they are working on the issue.  This problem
> makes 2006.21 a bad choice for a larger server with active webmail use,
> though smaller servers with less webmail use will see this issue much less
> frequently.

> I did not see these problems with 2006.1.  The problem with not running the
> most recent version is that there are security issues that will almost
> definitely be exploited just like most of the past bugs that can give system
> privileges to an IMail attacker.  It's a Catch 22, either have a stable
> server, or have one that can be hacked.  For larger installations, there is
> no good solution.

> To fix your 2006.1 issues, you need to migrate to MS SQL Express to store
> your contacts in instead of using the default Access solution.  Search the
> list for documentation on how to do this.  You have too many users for
> webmail to handle contacts with an Access database.  The IMAP issue is less
> clear to me, but you want to make sure that the IMAP service is not set to
> "force subscribe", otherwise users can't see their sub-folders and other
> related issues.  2006.1 also will not work appropriately with Safari.

> The real fix is to demand that Ipswitch fix the problems that cause IIS to
> crash.  They can do that without making users wait another 6 months or so
> for an interim release like they did with 2006.21.  I would like to see
> Ipswitch address this immediately.


> Matt




> Herron Jim W. (DTI) wrote: 
> Hoping someone with more insight to IMail than I have could assist on my
> earlier post below.
>  
> Thank you, Jim
>  
> James W. Herron
> Department of Technology and Information
> 801 Silver Lake Blvd.
> Dover, De 19904
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (P) 302-739-9657
> (F) 302-739-7243
>  
>  
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herron Jim W.
> (DTI)
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:23 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [IMail Forum] Several issues with mail access
>  
> We are running Imail 2006.03, the last stable version we had success with.
> We have 8400+ users in 38 virtual domains, with probably 75% using browsers
> for access. We skipped 2006.04 and went to 2006.1, just as we finished
> testing 2006.2 came out. We upgraded from 2006.03 to 2006.2 and it was a
> disaster. Ipswitch recommended downgrading to 2006.1 which we never had in
> production, things were better but frontend still kept crashing. We went
> back to 2006.03, we have not gone to 2006.21 yet, this list forum had
> negative statements on browser access and the .net errors, we pulled out
> again right at the last minute. I say these things because I know ipswitch's
> answer is going to be upgrading to 2006.21.
>  
> We are experiencing two errors listed below, this is displayed on the left
> panel of the browser, users cannot see their folders, just the error
> message. Other panels display properly. Does anyone have any insight to what
> is going on and/or recommendations for a fix. Another product is not a
> solution for this year anyway. Got to get through another year of IMail with
> possibilities of exchange next year.
>  
> When these errors happen, I've been rebuilding the workshare DB for the one
> mentioning database (unknown). On the other restarting services or the
> server works. CPU is running 30 to 100 percent at the time, with more time
> on the 100% side. W3wp.exe is running 50+ % with IMAP4d32 running at another
> 30+ % and SMTPd32, POP3d32 and queue manager eating the rest. The w3wp using
> over a GB of memory. 
>  
> Server is a Compaq G3 with Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz and 3 GB of RAM.
> Windows 2003 server Standard Edition Service Pack 2.
>  
>  
> First error, to do with the workshare database.
>  An error was encountered while processing your request. (Return to previous
> page)
> If you encounter this error again, please provide the following information
> to your network administrator to assist in trouble-shooting. 
> Message:
> ERROR [HY000] [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Cannot open database
> '(unknown)'. It may not be a database that your application recognizes, or
> the file may be corrupt. ERROR [IM006] [Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager]
> Driver's SQLSetConnectAttr failed ERROR [HY000] [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft
> Access Driver] Cannot open database '(unknown)'. It may not be a database
> that your application recognizes, or the file may be corrupt. 
> StackTrace:
> at System.Data.Odbc.OdbcConnection.Open() at
> Ipswitch.Web.Mail.WgsContactSource..ctor(IUser user) at
> Ipswitch.Web.Client.ContactTree.ProcessContactFolders(IUser user) at
> Ipswitch.Web.Client.ContactTree.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e) at
> System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) at
> System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.AddedControl(Control control, Int32 index) at
> System.Web.UI.ControlCollection.Add(Control child) at
> Infragistics.WebUI.UltraWebListbar.UltraWebListbar.CreateChildControls() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.EnsureChildControls() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
> System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()
> Second error, Connection lost.
>  
>  An error was encountered while processing your request. (Return to previous
> page)
> If you encounter this error again, please provide the following information
> to your network administrator to assist in trouble-shooting.
>  
> Message:
> Connection dropped
>  
> StackTrace:
> at Hunny.Mail.Socket.Underflow() at Hunny.Mail.Socket.Read() at
> Hunny.Mail.Imap4Parser.Read(Socket socket) at
> Hunny.Mail.Imap4Parser.ParseTag(Socket socket) at
> Hunny.Mail.Imap4Parser.ParseOneResponse(Socket socket) at
> Hunny.Mail.Imap4Client.Connect(String address, Int32 port) at
> Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Connection..ctor(IUser user) at
> Ipswitch.Web.Mail.Imap4Folder.get_Count() at
> Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolderList(ArrayList folders,
> Nodes level) at
> Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.ProcessMailFolders(IUser
> user) at Ipswitch.Web.Client.FolderTree.Page_Load(Object sender, EventArgs
> e) at System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) at
> System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.AddedControl(Control control, Int32 index) at
> System.Web.UI.ControlCollection.Add(Control child) at
> Infragistics.WebUI.UltraWebListbar.UltraWebListbar.CreateChildControls() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.EnsureChildControls() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
> System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() at
> System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain()
>  
>  
> Any help or insight is appreciated.
>  
>  
> James W. Herron
> Department of Technology and Information
> 801 Silver Lake Blvd.
> Dover, De 19904
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (P) 302-739-9657
> (F) 302-739-7243
>  


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