Susan,

Chill!!! Pat has done nothing that would cause him to be removed from the
list. Just because he is rather long winded and his writing is hard to read,
is no reason to boot him from the list. I welcome him to the list,
especially if he starts answering more questions than he asks!

Daniel Donnelly
________________________________________________________


----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Metre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: Re(2): [IMail Forum] imail issue


> Patrick,
>
> Please do not annoy me with your strange emails. I hope that they do
remove
> you from this list. The people on this list are here to discuss Imail not
to
> show their insecurity and personality problems as you are very good at
> doing.
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Patrick Mathews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 8:45 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: RE: Re(2): [IMail Forum] imail issue
>
>
>   post rebukes and flames openly on the forum please, i do not usually
> respond off the list. i'm only a 'useless list troll' if i'm off topic
> consistently, or abusive, i Will get TOSsed. ipswitch will be faithful to
> protect you from the likes of me.
>
>   faithful are the wounds of a friend, the kisses of an enemy are deceit.
>
>   hatred for my weird style elicits all kinds of responses. from this i
> winnow the best responses from those whose personal 'noise filters' don't
> block content.
>
>   what does this mean? if i flag your noise filter, you likely are too
young
> or inexperienced to have anything for me. if you are in management or
> marketing, my chatty excessively personal writing style is designed to get
> you to 'see my name and delete me immediately'. i'm in lot's of peoples
> filters.
>
>   i want that.
>
>   reasons below: follow the personal link for a real lecture on the
subject,
> i can talk with my hands too, you'll see. actually if you follow the
thread
> from the beginning, you'll see that it was an attempt to get off the orbs
> thread. i got an excellent answer from support, and this morn have
> determined where to start a security analysis of LDAP and AD.
>
>   any group of people, like-minded or not is a social group necessarily.
>
>   like doesn't have anything to do with information.
>
>   i waste bandwidth with noise, this is ok, if your problem is mission
crit,
> you should be calling or emailing support. most of my troubles aren't so
> huge.
>
>   why am i so curious about just one of my many apps?
>
>   i don't understand AD (active directory).  i've been trying to
understand
> AD by studying it directly for a year and a half now.   i've given up, and
> i'm trying to determine it's characteristics based on it's impact, yes,
it's
> effect on a product that i've run successfully without the AD.
>
>   Ms. Metre: forgive my arrogant stupidity, i'm blind: i cannot see the
wind
> the way everyone else tells me that they 'see' it. i don't understand them
> and i've never been able to relate to normal socialized enfranchised
members
> of our society because of this, i only see the wind's effect. that's why i
> believe in the wind, not because i claim to see it, but i see what it
does.
>
>   i lecture on the subject here:
>   www.patmathews.net/1.avi
>
>   please listen and then call the authorities, i doubt that i'm really
> worthy of normal social interaction with the society that produces
vietnam,
> watergate, survivor, littleton, mcveigh, kacinsky, disgruntled worker
> syndrome or white collar criminals et al. i'm not worthy. i see it it
other
> peoples eyes, especially corporate mgmt and market droids. i'm damaged
> goods. foster care, hatred, etc.
>   i'm emotionally disturbed, i don't medicate against medical advice. i'm
no
> danger to myself or anyone else, but this life causes me to weep often.
>
>   i, being substandard than they can only produce what you hear in the
avi.
> please forgive me. i'll try to be better, but i don't understand the
things
> that normal people seem to already understand most times.
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Susan Metre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>     Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:47 AM
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Subject: RE: Re(2): [IMail Forum] imail issue
>
>
>     Jibberish and waste of email processing. Join a social list.
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick Mathews
>       Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:54 PM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject: Re: Re(2): [IMail Forum] imail issue
>
>
>       m$ doctrine is that AD is LDAP enabled, my original question
obscurely
> stated by a desire to entertain was:
>
>       who needs ldap anyway....   i just don't have your gift of putting
it
> succinctly.  now, d3 is checking for me, he's with the band, see? but not
> officially, he just babysits and makes sure that the salesmen also provide
> us good bits here.
>
>       i expect to raise this issue with our web guy and router guy. i
don't
> really speak to much router or web, my limited talent and experience
> relegate me to the lowly role of board and drive swapper and all around
> server geek. so there! a left handed concurrence sir, never let it be said
> that i said "Me too" in a mere 2 words!! i have a reputation to protect.
>
>       signed,
>       paddy mcblarney
>       low priest of quantum verbosity
>       thanks for all the fiche- d.adams revised
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Imail
>         To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 05:27 PM
>         Subject: Re: Re(2): [IMail Forum] imail issue
>
>
>         I don't even enable the service.  No need. No desire. No point.
>
>         Who needs LDAP anyway?
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Patrick Mathews
>           To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>           Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:19 PM
>           Subject: RE: Re(2): [IMail Forum] imail issue
>
>
>           life is indeed bleak. there is NO moderator. this is anarchy at
> it's finest. action is the only solution for entropy. ergo, i'm created,
> therefore i am, cuz most times if i thought, i wouldn't be wondering if i
> was.
>
>           those of us who want one outcome or another need to act
> consistently with our desires:
>
>           i have a question that has been bothering me about LDAP and
Imail:
>
>           this is not mission crit, but maybe we can waste some cycles on
an
> academic issue. i migrated 5k plus users from a reliable linux config that
> was upstream from me, good config on their boxes, solid: but the upstream
> providor in that direction was dicey and unresponsive. my users had down
> time. this cannot be.
>
>           i'm not your LDAP guru, in fact: what's an LDAP? wrong list,
i'll
> ask around elsewhere, point i'm making is: p136 in the manual (being
stupid
> i read manuals, it helps mitigate my stupidity) tells me that if i do what
i
> did (and i did) that i may want to populate the ldap directory. does this
> mean that my 6500 hippies, yuppies, and farmers now are able to see server
> side info on the client side? there's some things they don't really need
to
> know about each other...
>
>           Rants, war stories, flames and links appreciated.
>
>           As Self Appointed List Troll (ol s.a.l.t.) i say that if empty
> hands are a devils workshop... what's an empty mind? his kitchen!  someone
> learn me ova heah, hah?
>
>
>
>
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>            -----Original Message-----
>           From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Anderson
>           Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:13 PM
>           To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mark McDonald
>           Subject: Re(2): [IMail Forum] ORBS IS DEAD! LETS GET ON WITH
IMAIL
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