Not so much in terms of actually writing bug fixes, more just reporting
them.  Instead of having to wade through hundreds of emails of complaining
and political commentary :)

Sort of like an official bugtracker from a client experience perspective,
coupled with vendor responses.

-ives

----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Let's be constructive, not whine...


> Ennhh, I dunno. Sometimes imail kinda reminds me of the early build of
> everquest, its like a house of cards if the wind blows the wrong way..
Woosh
> falls to the ground, but normally its very sturdy unless you apply
pressure
> =)
>
> I use Imail, I love imail, but sometimes..., sometimes..
>
> -Drew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ives Stoddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Let's be constructive, not whine...
>
>
> Just a thought...
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if Ipswitch enrolled their product versions into
> sourceforge?  Everyone could submit bugs and see where things are actually
> at in terms of being resolved.
>
> Are there any user group boards that do something similar?  i.e. bug
> tracking for the vendor's benefit, whether they're involved in the process
> or not?
>
> -ives
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norman J. Nolasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 7:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Let's be constructive, not whine...
>
>
> > BTW, there's a joke at the bottom...
> >
> > > Then PLEASE don't whine -- instead, be constructive (as the subject
> > > says...).  Say what it is that doesn't work as stated.  And give
> Ipswitch
> > a
> > > chance to respond -- they may well say "We're going to come out with
> > > a
> > 7.08
> > > that fixes everything that users mentioned".
> >
> > IPSwitch has known about the web messaging vulnerabilities since at
> > least March 20, 2002 and, as far as I know, was trying to reproduce
> > the web calendaring issue around the same time.  Since then, I don't
> > know if they were able to reproduce all the issues or not.  For all I
> > know, some of these problems could
> > have just been issues with my specific setup.
> >
> > Fortunately, some of the list users have since confirmed that these
> > vulnerabilities do exist and have suggested that I wait and "give
> > Ipswitch a chance to respond".  Fair enough.
> >
> > I have to say that overall, I've been very happy with the product.
> > There
> are
> > just a few issues keeping me from actually using the web messaging and
> > web calendaring (the username/account security problems).  If these
> > fixes end
> up
> > in a 7.08, then this problem is no longer a problem for me.  If they
> > end
> up
> > in a 7.1-8.0+ version, I have to somehow justify why we need to spend
> > more money to get the secure web messaging and web calendaring system
> > that I originally suggested.  (Hence, the duplicate effort to program
> > an ASP version of messaging and calendaring off the IMail services.)
> >
> > Bottom line for me: It's been 7 weeks.  I'd at least like to know if
> > IMail has even confirmed the existence of these issues and if these
> > are things that they
> > are going to fix in say, the next 3-6 months. And finally, if they will
be
> > fixed,
> > are they going to cost me an upgrade or a service contract?  If the
answer
> > is
> > "No" across the board, then at least I can justify the work I'm doing
now.
> > As
> > it stands, we're sort of in la-la land.
> >
> > On the other hand, I agree with Scott on most counts.  This demand for
> > a bug-free product is kind of silly.  I guess it would have helped if
> IPSwitch
> > released a list of open issues.  Thus, when customers buy a product,
> > they know what they're getting.
> >
> > Finally, on a lighter note... it's funny that people are comparing the
> auto
> > industry to the technology industry.  This flame has happened
> > before...
> >
> > See Bill Gates vs. General Motors
> > http://www.topwrench.com/computers_vs_autos.htm
> >
> > -Norm
> >
> >
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> >
> > Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked
> > questions:  http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
> >
>
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