Ennhh, I dunno. Sometimes imail kinda reminds me of the early build of
everquest, its like a house of cards if the wind blows the wrong way.. Woosh
falls to the ground, but normally its very sturdy unless you apply pressure
=)

I use Imail, I love imail, but sometimes..., sometimes..

-Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: Ives Stoddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Let's be constructive, not whine...


Just a thought...

Wouldn't it be nice if Ipswitch enrolled their product versions into
sourceforge?  Everyone could submit bugs and see where things are actually
at in terms of being resolved.

Are there any user group boards that do something similar?  i.e. bug
tracking for the vendor's benefit, whether they're involved in the process
or not?

-ives

----- Original Message -----
From: "Norman J. Nolasco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Let's be constructive, not whine...


> BTW, there's a joke at the bottom...
>
> > Then PLEASE don't whine -- instead, be constructive (as the subject 
> > says...).  Say what it is that doesn't work as stated.  And give
Ipswitch
> a
> > chance to respond -- they may well say "We're going to come out with 
> > a
> 7.08
> > that fixes everything that users mentioned".
>
> IPSwitch has known about the web messaging vulnerabilities since at 
> least March 20, 2002 and, as far as I know, was trying to reproduce 
> the web calendaring issue around the same time.  Since then, I don't 
> know if they were able to reproduce all the issues or not.  For all I 
> know, some of these problems could
> have just been issues with my specific setup.
>
> Fortunately, some of the list users have since confirmed that these 
> vulnerabilities do exist and have suggested that I wait and "give 
> Ipswitch a chance to respond".  Fair enough.
>
> I have to say that overall, I've been very happy with the product. 
> There
are
> just a few issues keeping me from actually using the web messaging and 
> web calendaring (the username/account security problems).  If these 
> fixes end
up
> in a 7.08, then this problem is no longer a problem for me.  If they 
> end
up
> in a 7.1-8.0+ version, I have to somehow justify why we need to spend 
> more money to get the secure web messaging and web calendaring system 
> that I originally suggested.  (Hence, the duplicate effort to program 
> an ASP version of messaging and calendaring off the IMail services.)
>
> Bottom line for me: It's been 7 weeks.  I'd at least like to know if 
> IMail has even confirmed the existence of these issues and if these 
> are things that they
> are going to fix in say, the next 3-6 months. And finally, if they will be
> fixed,
> are they going to cost me an upgrade or a service contract?  If the answer
> is
> "No" across the board, then at least I can justify the work I'm doing now.
> As
> it stands, we're sort of in la-la land.
>
> On the other hand, I agree with Scott on most counts.  This demand for 
> a bug-free product is kind of silly.  I guess it would have helped if
IPSwitch
> released a list of open issues.  Thus, when customers buy a product, 
> they know what they're getting.
>
> Finally, on a lighter note... it's funny that people are comparing the
auto
> industry to the technology industry.  This flame has happened 
> before...
>
> See Bill Gates vs. General Motors 
> http://www.topwrench.com/computers_vs_autos.htm
>
> -Norm
>
>
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